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To: hopespringseternal

There are two sides, but our side is never represented. Whose fault is that? I submit the RNC works against us continually. Thinks that’s going to change, if we break away?

We’ll still deal with that dynamic. We need to end that dynamic.

We had folks that didn’t go out and vote. We didn’t even get as many votes as we did in 2008. I’m not convinced that’s going to hold up over time. We may in fact see the vote swell to around the same amount as last time. We’ll see.

We’re making a lot of assumptions about what the actual make-up of our nation is, based on the votes of the adults who bothered to show up.

Less than 180,000 flipped votes in three states, and Romney could have been our president. And Romney never was one of us. We predicted the outcome in the April/May time frame.

We hoped Romney could pull it out, but we were kidding ourselves.

I don’t see the benefit of splitting off so we can become a shadow of our former existence.

I say win it all back. We can do it.


141 posted on 11/13/2012 6:16:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I submit the RNC works against us continually. Thinks that’s going to change, if we break away?

Why do you assume that everything will be exactly the same? There are plenty of solid red states that have the voting power to destroy the left. Currently the GOP straddles the fence so they can remain competitive for local offices in blue states.

I’m not convinced that’s going to hold up over time. We may in fact see the vote swell to around the same amount as last time.

Smells like wishful thinking to me. So what if it comes true? As I pointed out before, it is extremely unlikely you are even going to be able to meaningfully reign in the debt and spending and slow the rate of decline. Forget changing direction. You are engaging in recreational drug use if you believe that.

We’re making a lot of assumptions about what the actual make-up of our nation is, based on the votes of the adults who bothered to show up.

Maybe you aren't remembering the Bush years when the vote did flip? Massive spending and increases in entitlements? Heck, we even wound up with a whole new entitlement program!

What magic dust are you going to sprinkle on the candidate and the electorate next time to change that?

I don’t see the benefit of splitting off so we can become a shadow of our former existence.

Which existence would that be? The one where half the nation is on the dole? Where half the nation pays no taxes? Where we send soldiers to be little more than unarmed targets for people that hate us? Where in nation where we have boots on the ground Christians are still being martyred and women oppressed? I say win it all back. We can do it.

Put down the bong. Join reality.

142 posted on 11/13/2012 6:46:46 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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