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McCain Beats Romney! The Pennsylvania story -- how did it and so much else go wrong?
American Spectator ^ | 11.9.12 | PAUL KENGOR

Posted on 11/13/2012 9:14:41 AM PST by neverdem

Brace yourselves, conservatives. What I’m about to say will hurt, and it should hurt -- and I’m not the first to notice. (Kudos to Rush Limbaugh, who noticed and is hitting this point hard.) Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election not so much because he got fewer votes than Barack Obama but because he got fewer votes than John McCain in 2008.

Additional votes are still coming in, but, as of the time of my writing, Romney received around 57.8 million votes in 2012. In 2008, John McCain received 59.9 million. Romney got over 2 million fewer votes than McCain. And in the final count, he will almost certainly have received considerably fewer votes than McCain.

Obama received 60.6 million votes in 2012, almost 9 million less than he received in 2008. If Romney would have had McCain’s vote total, he would have been much closer in the popular vote and might have even had enough to win the Electoral College. Or, better put, if Mitt Romney had secured just a tiny fraction more votes than John McCain -- as we conservatives were certain he would -- he might have won the presidency.

We know this: Romney won independents by 5 points, and they made up 29% of all voters. McCain didn’t win independents.

What does this really mean? That’s where the hurt comes. It appears to mean that our side lost because we failed to turn out our side. It isn’t so much that the Obama-Axelrod apparatus turned out their side -- though they did -- but that our side failed to...

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Imagine: If someone had told you that Barack Obama would receive 9 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008, you would have predicted his sure defeat. You would have been wrong. Republicans blew a huge opportunity.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: pa2012; romney
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To: ansel12

Got a life, thank you very much. I see you completely misread my post and decided to be insulting as a way of proving your point.


81 posted on 11/13/2012 7:30:30 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

We are just so sick of hearing about that windbag conman, his cult people are still hitting the FR threads.


82 posted on 11/13/2012 7:59:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: jessduntno

At some point you are going to have to face facts and realize that you still can’t brow beat America into voting for the Massachusetts governor.

If you want to be useful, then try and figure what a disaster the man was, and help to shut down whatever mechanism or portion of the GOP that manipulated a failed one term liberal governor who left office with 34% approval into the party’s nominee.


83 posted on 11/13/2012 8:04:28 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“At some point you are going to have to face facts and realize that you still can’t brow beat America into voting for the Massachusetts governor.”

Browbeat? I think you misunderstood...I was telling people they are morons, wondering what happened. Inability to grasp the difference between Romney and Obama is seriously. stupid.


84 posted on 11/14/2012 6:46:20 AM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

If you want to be useful, then try and figure what a disaster the man was, and help to shut down whatever mechanism or portion of the GOP that manipulated a failed one term liberal governor who left office with 34% approval into the party’s nominee.

At some point you need to figure out what your party did wrong, rather than screaming at the customers for not recognizing how wonderful your cooking is, as they spit it out and walk out of the restaurant.


85 posted on 11/14/2012 11:40:22 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“At some point you need to figure out what your party did wrong, rather than screaming at the customers for not recognizing how wonderful your cooking is, as they spit it out and walk out of the restaurant.”

Stupidest fing analogy of the century!


86 posted on 11/14/2012 11:55:19 AM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

LOL, shout at America louder, you haven’t made Romney palatable to them yet.


87 posted on 11/14/2012 12:19:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“LOL, shout at America louder, you haven’t made Romney palatable to them yet.”

Have a good laugh when he appoints another wide Latina and maybe one or two other socialists to SCOTUS. That’ll show them a thing or two about how smart you are.


88 posted on 11/14/2012 12:23:05 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

I am laughing at you and your determination to not examine what went wrong in regards to 2012 and the Republican party.

It appears that you have a rigid, anti-conservative agenda to promote, regardless of how it is received by the American public, regardless of the results it has on the vote and elections.


89 posted on 11/14/2012 1:09:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“I am laughing at you and your determination to not examine what went wrong in regards to 2012 and the Republican party.”

what went wrong is the aholes that decided to sit on their righteous azzes and not vote, letting a socialist run the country for four more years. Nice going.


90 posted on 11/14/2012 1:15:29 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

It appears that you have a rigid, anti-conservative agenda to promote, regardless of how it is received by the American public, regardless of the results it has on the vote and elections, or who wins those elections.


91 posted on 11/14/2012 1:34:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“It appears that you have a rigid, anti-conservative agenda to promote, regardless of how it is received by the American public, regardless of the results it has on the vote and elections, or who wins those elections.”

Yeah, right. It appears that you have a rigid neck upon which is perched an orb that is firmly planted in your anal cavity.


92 posted on 11/14/2012 1:46:33 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: ansel12

I got fed up with their rhetoric as much as you did, but not all of them were wrong.

Slamming the Tea Party was a huge mistake but I’m hoping that’s a battle that the Tea Party will win over the ‘moderates.’


93 posted on 11/14/2012 5:43:50 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: The Toll

First of all, Romney is over 59 million votes now. By the time the count is done, he will be roughly even with McCain.

Second...EVERY election we get the anecdotal stories about huge turnout! Anecdote does not equal data.


94 posted on 11/15/2012 8:12:32 AM PST by SpekeParrot
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