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To: Windflier

No, that is a strawman argument. Th problem is you misrepresent the situation. The United States rebelled when they were eexcluded from the British Government and their colonial charters and colonial governments were arbitrarily abrogated. The situation was also quite different because the United States included conquered colonies and people who were not British in their origins. Britain treated the United Sates as a conquered territory rather than one of its own homelands for Englismen with Englismen’s rights.

The United States is our own nation. As citizens of the United States we still possess considerable powers as political bodies and as individuals in shaping our government, abating government corruption, and removing usurpers. The problem is there are simply too many americans who have learned some of the Revolutionary slogans without understanding their context, meanings, and historical applicability. Too many people remain ignorant of the Republic’s principles despite reciting their words. Some people are too lazy to respect the in which these principles seek to remove conflict and engage in conflict by legal and moral means.

Although I have very strong doubts the people advocating secession will understand or appreciate the way in which the stroy applies to current circumstances, someone just might. So, I recommend readers visit Youtube, get a bowl of popcorn, and watch Jimmy Stewart and Marlene Dietrich in the movie Destry Rides Again.

Kudos to the first person who gets the idea.


64 posted on 11/15/2012 2:22:15 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Th problem is you misrepresent the situation. The United States rebelled when they were eexcluded from the British Government and their colonial charters and colonial governments were arbitrarily abrogated.

And today is different in what way? Do you not see that the majority in this country have been systematically excluded from the political process through means of criminality, subversion, and institutional corruption by the left? Do you not see that the-powers-that-be in Washington have arbitrarily abrogated and violated the spirit and letter of every law and constitutional dictate that stands in the way of their Socialist agenda?

As citizens of the United States we still possess considerable powers as political bodies and as individuals in shaping our government, abating government corruption, and removing usurpers.

I'd truly like to believe that's still so, but facts on the ground over the last decade indicate otherwise. The extent and degree of egregious violations of our nation's founding charter and principles have become too numerous to even delineate. We are in the midst of a wholesale sundering of the ancient and solemn covenants which gave birth to this nation, and which enabled the people of this continent to build the most free and prosperous nation ever known.

I don't think we disagree on the fact that we have much corrosion and degradation to repair in this country, and that we must do something different to effect desirable and necessary changes to our government. Doing the same things we've been doing, and expecting different results, is frankly insane.

68 posted on 11/15/2012 9:01:41 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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