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1 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:38 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What difference would it have made if the polls were accurate other than Romney would not have been surprised by the loss?


2 posted on 11/12/2012 5:34:58 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Kaslin

These analyses of the “expand the map” strategy make sense, but only within the context of the campaign truly believing that they were safe [in other crucial must-have states from ] from rampant voter fraud and election tampering of every known type— a cataclysmically wrong assumption.

Fixed it.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:44 PM PST by CaptainKip
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To: Kaslin

All this is nonsense .
Early voting stole the election and the factvthevdems went to court to keep it in Ohio says it all .
The Cleveland voting booths were stuffed with ballots for weeks with no Romney
Oversight !
Naive
But Fl and N va had the same thing .
GOP needs full time employed lawyers at these l
Places for weeks


12 posted on 11/12/2012 5:59:42 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Kaslin

Of course they had the polls right, they knew exactly where all the fraud was going to take place.

The one thing that did always bother me through this election season was the comparisons to 2010. Yeah, we did great with the house but in the Statewide Senate races in battleground states we got beat with massive fraud. They proved that even with the biggest wave in Republican support in recent history they had an answer ready. Fraud in the big cities like Denver and L.V. to counter any gains outside of them. This machine was ready to go even then. Add in the fact that this was a presidential election and they would naturally get more of the non-fraud turnout and there really was no good reason to think that we could overcome the fraud.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 6:02:05 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Kaslin

What sort of a model do you develop to account for overwhelming fraud? The kind of numbers that were reported in certain precints in OH, PA and other swing states can’t be accounted for.

There’s no polling that’s going to account for 537 to 0 type returns in numerous districts.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 6:16:59 PM PST by bereanway
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To: Kaslin; Jim Robinson; All
When I stopped by Romney headquarters in Boston back in September, Newhouse said his team was anticipating a D+3 electorate in November. This seemed entirely reasonable to me, based on evidence from 2004, 2008 and 2010, but it turned out to be incorrect. The actual electorate this year was D+6. Post-election news reports reveal that Mitt Romney was "shell-shocked" by his loss, an outcome that can only be explained by shockingly flawed internal polling...

Yes, well, NO ONE really expected a D+6 electorate. Not even the Obamugabe team...you could tell in the waning days of the campaign they were huddling, sending their ignorant prompter reading stooge to safe havens, in an effort to rally the base...they also seemed to have stopped believing their internal pollsters, if you look at their behavior.

I agree with those who say we conservatives must re-group, but not surrender our principles.

If we still have even a semblance of a Republic in 2 or 4 years, it'll be a miracle...and we will have to put things back into Constitutional order then!

Who the hell knows how ruined our economy will be by then? Or our social order?

Our spiritual house is being overrun by statists, God-haters and lovers of self...we need a spiritual revival, men and women of the Word praying and working for His Glory...only then will mankind realize they are not the center of all wisdom.

16 posted on 11/12/2012 6:20:10 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin

It’s really difficult picking up on vote or election fraud in a poll. You get a guy who says obama you put him down once and he votes or has voted 20 to fifty times in some states with early voting and the machine fix doesn’t show up on polls say .4 % of Rs in a particular race or two get recorded as ds that’s a .8% difference, enough to make the difference in a particular Florida Congressional district but I believe in that race they just “stuffed” the box how else do you get 141% of registration to turn out, of course that doesn’t show up in polls either. If a poll was right on they obviously knew of the fraud and added 5% to the ds.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 6:30:05 PM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: Kaslin

It is very easy to have confidence in fabricated data.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 2:04:19 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin
Before I start praising Obama’s internal pollsters, I want to see their predictions on turnout.

Did they predict Obama would drop 7 million votes from 2008, and still win?

I doubt it.

Did they predict Romney would get 1 million less than the completely incompetent John McCain?

I doubt it.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 2:06:26 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin
If most Republicans did not want Romney and settled, how on earth can we expect the D's and the I's to like him?

He played it safe did not take it to Obama because he was afraid, just another Bush1, Dole and McCain, will the establishment party ever learn? He evidently was sooooo nice he had no clue who he was dealing with, the Chicago mob.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 2:22:05 PM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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