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Ron Paul: A New Beginning
Zerohedge.com ^ | 11-11-2012 | Ron Paul (Via Tyler Durden)

Posted on 11/11/2012 5:29:55 PM PST by Renfield

America is over $16 trillion in debt. The “official” unemployment rate still hovers around 8%.

Our federal government claims the right to spy on American citizens, indefinitely detain them, and even assassinate them without trial.

Domestic drones fly over the country for civilian surveillance.

Twelve million fewer Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, yet political pundits scratch their heads.

It’s not hard to see why, though.

To go along with endorsing a never-ending policy of bailouts, “stimulus packages,” and foreign military adventurism, the establishment of neither major party questions the assaults on Americans’ liberties I’ve named above.

As my campaign showed, the American people are fed up. Many realized heading into Tuesday that regardless of who won the presidential election, the status quo would be the real victor.

GOP leadership is now questioning why they didn’t perform better.

They’re looking at demographic changes in the United States and implying minorities can only be brought into the party by loudly advocating for abandoning what little remains of their limited government platform and endorsing more statist policies.

My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.

Liberty is popular – regardless of race, religion, or creed.

As long as the GOP establishment continues to not only reject the liberty message, but actively drive away the young, diverse coalition that supports those principles, it will see results similar to Tuesday’s outcome.

A renewed respect for liberty is the only way forward for the Republican Party and for our country.

I urge all my Republican colleagues to join the liberty movement in fighting for a brighter future.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; liberty; paul; ronpaul; ronpaul2012
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1 posted on 11/11/2012 5:30:03 PM PST by Renfield
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It is sad how many on the Right would defend these drones if a Republican was in charge, and how many on the Left do the same if Obama is doing it.

It is wrong no matter which side has the power, but all that happens is one “team” plays defense and the other team plays “offense” while the train steams on to the abyss.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:07 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Renfield

Well said.

I hope his son Rand emerges as a leader in the GOP.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:21 PM PST by jwb0581 (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Renfield
Ever the delusional, raving lunatic.

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4 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:57 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Renfield

“My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.”

NO Ron Paul you wack job! Your campaign helped screw up the GOP primary and ensure that Romney got the nomination. Thus, you helped reelect Obama....you and the idiots that supported you.

Also, Ron Paul, stop calling yourself a Republican. You are a Libertarian (Libertine) and NOT a real conservative. Go away and stay away!


5 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:57 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Seaplaner

Don’t worry. Corker and other Republicans are going to bend over FORWARDS to raise taxes.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/sen-corker-optimistic-there-is-a-deal-to-get-beyond-fiscal-cliff-which-is-really-the-fiscal-foothills/


6 posted on 11/11/2012 5:37:33 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: Renfield

Worth repeating...”As long as the GOP establishment continues to not only reject the liberty message, but actively drive away the young, diverse coalition that supports those principles, it will see results similar to Tuesday’s outcome.”

I do seem to remember quite a few FReepers blasting those of us that supported Ron Paul. Next election, Go Rand!


7 posted on 11/11/2012 5:39:53 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Sola Veritas
NO Ron Paul you wack job! Your campaign helped screw up the GOP primary and ensure that Romney got the nomination

Er, don't you remember the RP supporters who rules-lawyered delegates to the RNC only to have the rules retroactively changed? That meant that the administrators of that primary were already in the bag for Romney.
Don't you remember the rules-changes proposed, and enacted [the teleprompter incident], that served one purpose alone: to cememnt their voting for Romney.
Don't you remember the refusal to seat one of the delegations?

You are a Libertarian (Libertine) and NOT a real conservative.

Libertine and libertarian are two different things.

8 posted on 11/11/2012 5:40:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Seaplaner
Ever the delusional, raving lunatic.

...and we have just heard from the Republican establishment. How's life in the country club?

9 posted on 11/11/2012 5:42:03 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Renfield

“They’re looking at demographic changes in the United States and implying minorities can only be brought into the party by loudly advocating for abandoning what little remains of their limited government platform and endorsing more statist policies. “

Go to reason.com and search for immigration. Libertarians are also part of the problem.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 5:48:48 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Renfield

RuPaul didn’t endorse Mittens so the Paultards camped out in their mother’s basement election day watching Gilligan’s Island reruns. .


11 posted on 11/11/2012 5:51:31 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (St.Peter:"Upon this rock, I will build my church" 0:"If you've got a church, you didn't build that!")
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To: gunsequalfreedom
How's life in the country club?

Since you ask, this diversity thing is killing us. Used to be a man could have a quiet drink after a hard day on the course. Now? In comes Biff and Muffy off the tennis court going on and on about their daughters' coming out parties. God I miss the good ol' days when our wives stayed at home and talked about these things at tea.

12 posted on 11/11/2012 5:52:03 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Crimson Elephant

Can you name some on the Right who are in favor of domestic drone surveillance?

As a long standing member of the FAR right (christian, conservative, gun owner, JBS, Americanist, ... ) I find your statement inflamatory and unhelpful.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 5:52:30 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: gunsequalfreedom; Jim Robinson

“I do seem to remember quite a few FReepers blasting those of us that supported Ron Paul. Next election, Go Rand!”

And those of us that are REAL conservatives will continue to do so. Ron Paul is NOT conservative, he is a Libertarian. Libertarians ARE NOT conservatives...they are LIBERTINES....that is NOT conservative.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 5:52:57 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: OneWingedShark; Jim Robinson

“Libertine and libertarian are two different things.”

NO, they are the same thing. Libertarians are “libertine” in their views on morality. Therefore, libertarians are libertines. It is another form of anarchy.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 5:56:28 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: OneWingedShark

I do not agree with Ron Paul, but if he played by the rules his delegates should be respected. They were not because after over a decade of warning about the dangers of the Fed Reserve and bankers in general, Ron Paul finally is making inroads in the GOP. If you are a banker would you allow that? No way. IMHO phone calls were made from Wall Street and proponent of the Fed Reserve to GOP and the Ron Paul foothold in the GOP is to be destroyed. Problem is GOP chose to side with these bankers who help implode our economy with liar loan mortgage notes sold to unsuspecting investors as AAA investments. Fed Reserve who used the bailouts to cover bad bank speculations and refuse to be audited or have Congressional oversight. Trillions of dollars in the hands of private bankers (that is what the Fed Reserve is, it is not gov) of whom psychologists have profiled and determined 20 percent of them exhibit sociopath behavior. Can we say fraud and abuse? The GOP died for them??? Ron Paul supporters are justified in their anger. They stayed home and the GOP was on their own. Gov Palin whom many sophisticates hate was right, she advised Rommney after he won the nomination to respect and reach out to the Ron Paul supporters. Guess his advisers who are beholden to Wall Street advised him otherwise.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 6:00:53 PM PST by Fee
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To: Sola Veritas

I had some respect for Ron Paul in the old days before he became a flaming libtard 911 truther.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 6:05:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Renfield
Liberty is popular – regardless of race, religion, or creed.

Then why did the majority of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, etc., vote for Obama?

18 posted on 11/11/2012 6:10:27 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Sola Veritas
lib·er·tar·i·an       [lib-er-tair-ee-uhn]
noun
  1. a person who advocates liberty, especially with regard to thought or conduct.
  2. a person who maintains the doctrine of free will (distinguished from necessitarian).
versus
lib·er·tine       [lib-er-teen, -tin]
noun
  1. a person who is morally or sexually unrestrained, especially a dissolute man; a profligate; rake.
  2. a freethinker in religious matters.
  3. a person freed from slavery in ancient Rome.

But even if you reject the dictionary, the Libertarian party's own platform says:

We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.

And I agree with that -- it is not the government's place to dictate -- beyond basic, general, and necessarily broad terms -- how a person should live (via law). On the Last Day, it is God before whom men stand, not before government.


Why the ping to Jim? Because I disagree with you?

19 posted on 11/11/2012 6:11:10 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Here is my take on Ron Paul:

Limited government.
Check!

Reduce the current size of the federal government to... um... limit it.
Check!

Abolish the income tax to keep the government limited.
Check!

Actually follow the Constitution which limits the federal government.
Check!

States rights.
Check!

Personal liberty and freedom.
Check!

Return to the gold standard.
Why not? Check!

Stop U.S. adventurism overseas and go to war only with a declaration of war.
Check!

Let Iran have all the nukes it wants.
Che...err...no. No, can’t do that one. I guess that cancels out the one above as well in certain circumstances.

The point is, Ron Paul brought more good to the table than bad. Always has. I never considered him presidential material but ignoring his ideas is what the Republican Party has done for years and years and look where we are today.

Now someone will come in claiming he is racist... maybe he is, I have no idea. I have never heard of him voting for or sponsoring a bill in Congress institutionalizing racism so for me... I don’t care.

Now someone will jump in and claim he gave us Romney in the primaries. If (candidate of your choice) couldn’t win because of Ron Paul then he/she really wasn’t much of a canditate, was he/she.

Now someone will call him a fruit cake. Okay, I’ll give you that one but he is a fruit cake that has espoused limited goveernment and personal liberty. Christmas is right around the corner and I happen to like fruit cake!


20 posted on 11/11/2012 6:13:22 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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