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Stop talking about the Hispanics for a moment — what about Asian-Americans?
Pajamas Media ^ | November 9, 2012 - 9:22 am | David P. Goldman

Posted on 11/11/2012 6:21:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind



Apart from some fatuous self-congratulation from Asian-American liberals, there has been very little discussion of the 73-26 Asian-American margin of support for President Obama in last Tuesday’s election. That’s slightly smaller than the highest estimate of Latino support for Obama, at 75-23. Asian-Americans are a small minority now but their numbers are growing rapidly.

Most conservatives consider Asian-Americans poster-children for the American model of self-motivated success. The facts bear this out. The Pew Research Center reported last July:

Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success…

Asians recently passed Hispanics as the largest group of new immigrants to the United States. The educational credentials of these recent arrivals are striking. More than six-in-ten (61%) adults ages 25 to 64 who have come from Asia in recent years have at least a bachelor’s degree. This is double the share among recent non-Asian arrivals, and almost surely makes the recent Asian arrivals the most highly educated cohort of immigrants in U.S. history.

Compared with the educational attainment of the population in their country of origin, recent Asian immigrants also stand out as a select group. For example, about 27% of adults ages 25 to 64 in South Korea and 25% in Japan have a bachelor’s degree or more.2In contrast, nearly 70% of comparably aged recent immigrants from these two countries have at least a bachelor’s degree.

Asian-American kids occupy nearly three-quarters of the places at New York City’s exam-based high schools (including Bronx Science and Stuyvesant) although they comprise less than 12% of the student population. The main threat to the upward striving of working-class immigrant kids who study hard to get into top schools is the NAACP. The New York Times reported Oct. 15:

NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund and other groups filed a racial bias complaint with the United States Education Department. They charge that reliance on a single test for determining who gets into Bronx Science and seven other specialized high schools discriminates against young African-Americans and Latinos. Other factors, like student grades, need to be considered as well, they say.

Asians “also stand out for their strong emphasis on family,” the Pew study reported. “More than half (54%) say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in life; just 34% of all American adults agree. Two-thirds of Asian-American adults (67%) say that being a good parent is one of the most important things in life; just 50% of all adults agree.”

If the Republican Party can’t win the support of the immigrant group with the strongest family values and the most success in achieving the American dream, what can it say to the Hispanics, the immigrant group with the least success in achieving the American dream?

I do not mean to be glib. The issue requires study. But I will venture a guess: Asian-Americans, like any other immigrant group, come here with the hope of bringing family members with them. Tough enforcement of immigration laws makes life as hard for them as it does for any other immigrant group, and frustrates their hope of reuniting families in America. The result of our present immigration laws is that we fail to keep out the illegals we don’t want, and make it harder to absorb the skilled and energetic immigrants we do want. There will be endless discussion during the next few months of Romney’s mistake in moving to the right of Rick Perry on immigration during the Republican primaries, and I will leave the detailed parsing to the professionals. I hope the professionals talk to Asian-Americans first.

America is unlikely to tolerate ethnic quotas (Asians in, Hispanics out). There are plenty of bright Hispanics as well (with 25% unemployment in Spain, German firms are recruiting Spanish engineers to fill the 30,000 job openings for engineers in Germany). But there is a sensible way to encourage the kind of immigration that boosts economic growth and discourage the kind of immigration that impedes economic growth.

The distinguished Canadian economist Prof. Reuven Brenner of McGill University wrote two years ago in First Things magazine:

Without innovation, America faces prolonged stagnation. The outlook seems bleak. Between 1988 and 1998, manufacturing productive growth rose from less than 2 percent to more than 5 percent per annum. By 2008, it had fallen back to the 2 percent range as the great wave of innovation abated. This outcome is not inevitable, however. America has been obtaining a disproportionate flow of skilled innovators by attracting these “vital few” to its shores. Without their contribution, America may neither sustain the economic growth required to absorb the penurious many nor raise their standards of living. The impact of the vital few does trickle down…

The problem lies in policy. American sentiment toward immigrants has swung from boomtown hospitality to churlish xenophobia in the course of the present recession…

It is hard to blame opponents of immigration. Earlier this year, the Pew Hispanic Center reported that California’s estimated 2.7 million illegal residents—7 percent of the state’s population—add $4 billion to $6 billion in costs. Cutting off state payments for the American-born children of immigrants supposedly would save about $640 million a year. By similar estimates, Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year. Whether these estimates are exact or only in the ballpark, it is clear that poor migrants drain state finances under the present institutional and regulatory landscape, and the drain is substantial.

…The least the United States can do is try, explicitly, to attract the vital few to its shores and, at the same time, speed up the domestic production of talent.

…Congress should first increase visas for skilled immigrants—those who would invest in their own entrepreneurial ventures in the United States in particular. Congress also should facilitate a temporary worker program, but without instantaneously bestowing on those workers the many monetary government benefits for which America’s already taxpaying citizens are eligible. For immigrants in the United States who do not have proper documentation but who have built up equity in this country, opportunities should be provided to obtain legalization if they can demonstrate good moral character. Such an “earned” legalization should be achievable and verifiable in an accountable manner.

As Prof. Brenner observes, immigrants have made a disproportionate contribution to American economic growth in recent years. “At the height of the last tech boom in 1999, Chinese and Indian engineers were at the helm of 24 percent of the technology companies started in Silicon Valley,” he writes, adding:

In 25.3 percent of [high-tech and engineering] companies, at least one key founder was foreign-born.

• Of all immigrant-founded companies, 26 percent had Indian founders; 7 percent had founders of British and Chinese origin; 6 percent had founders from Taiwan; Japanese and German founders each led 5 percent; 4 percent had founders from Israel; 3 percent had founders from Canada; and 2.5 percent had founders from Iran.

• In Massachusetts the single largest founding group was Israelis, at 17 percent.

• Indian entrepreneurs dominated in New Jersey, leading 47 percent of all immigrant-founded start-ups.

• Immigrants also represented 24.2 percent of international patent applications filed from the United States in 2006. Chinese filed the largest number of patents, followed by Indians, Canadians, and British.

If we Republicans can’t persuade our most successful, entrepreneurial, family-oriented citizens to support us, we won’t be in business much longer.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asians; deomographics; hispanics
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To: patriot08

I wish Mitt hadn’t conceded so soon. Those who take an oath to uphold our laws are crooks who belong in prison.


41 posted on 11/11/2012 7:45:40 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: cripplecreek

True, and it is also leading to a one-party system when both sides jettison principle to pander for votes. We are already headed there with such groups as “Log Cabin Republicans” and the repeated push by certain Republicans to pander yet more for the hispanic vote.


42 posted on 11/11/2012 7:47:20 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah like Scott "I'm a pro choice republican" Brown? Meanwhile tea party backed republicans did both hold and pick up seats.

Looking at the big picture, I fail to see how Tuesday's elections were anything less than a disaster for conservatism. Sure, we won a few races and ballots here and there but as a whole, Tuesday was a net loss for conservatives and conservative values.

43 posted on 11/11/2012 7:47:28 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68; cripplecreek

These guys (Akin/Mourdock) were definitely flawed candidates. Heck, in Missouri, Obama lost by 10 points and the state legislature became a supermajority for the R’s...and Akin lost by 10. Obama also got crushed in Indiana and Mourdock got beat as well.

As far as Scott Brown goes, well, he lost in a state that Obama WON by like 30 points, so it should come as no surprise. Comparing the Brown loss to Akin/Mourdock is apples to oranges.

One thing the Democrats do much better than Republicans is unify. I don’t see near the vitriol for the moderate Dems from the liberal Dems like I see for moderate R’s from conservative R’s.


44 posted on 11/11/2012 7:49:40 AM PST by gopno1
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To: mrsmel

“Whites aren’t even supposed to recognise that we are an ethnic group”

Correct. Ethnic now means “nonwhite”.


45 posted on 11/11/2012 7:49:45 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: Aria

It looked like to me that every where you looked, they were chomping at the bit to throw in the towel.
Surreal.


46 posted on 11/11/2012 7:50:41 AM PST by patriot08
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To: patriot08
Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket

I'd be curious to know the dates their visas were stamped and not at all surprised if these dates were during the Bush Administration while he was rolling out the red carpet to unskilled African immigrants.

47 posted on 11/11/2012 7:53:07 AM PST by Drew68
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It would be considered “ethnic cleansing” if whites were immigrating in overwhelming numbers to any black, brown, or yellow nation and race-replacing the inhabitants. The UN would be calling for measures to stop it. Only in white nations is race-replacement—”ethnic cleansing”—acceptable, even desirable.


48 posted on 11/11/2012 7:54:38 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Drew68

Sounds to me like you have a choice to make. Vote democrat or lose because us filthy conservatives aren’t going away.

Moderates, nothing but lying, manipulative bottom feeding scum.


49 posted on 11/11/2012 7:56:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gopno1

You must never have lurked at DU. There are constant calls for the purging of the “centrists” from the party. The DNC is a villian to the “progressives”.


50 posted on 11/11/2012 7:58:00 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: gopno1
I don’t see near the vitriol for the moderate Dems from the liberal Dems like I see for moderate R’s from conservative R’s.

That's because there's no such thing as a moderate democrat. "Moderate" republicans have moderated the GOP into a coma and don't have the balls to take on the party that actually needs moderating.
51 posted on 11/11/2012 7:59:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: all the best

And “diversity” means “lack of whites”, and “cultural enrichment” means every group has a recognised culture except whites.


52 posted on 11/11/2012 8:03:16 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: dalebert

My FRiend... hopefully this past election will slap the CRAP out of us that were silent before... We need to do whatever it takes to get this filth out of our system.


53 posted on 11/11/2012 8:03:33 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Venturer

“Asian Americans are supposed to be smart.
There goes that theory.”

On November 6th, 71% of Hispanics cast their votes for Obama.

On that same day, 73% of Asians cast their votes for Obama.

Asians “voted left” in a higher percentage than did Hispanics!

What should that tell us about the future?


54 posted on 11/11/2012 8:04:03 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: patriot08

I would really like to see two ‘ongoing’ threads here at FR...an ‘action’ thread where we can discuss ideas on how to aggressively battle the parasites and the left (canceling cable, staying away from entertainment venues, gardening, etc.), and another where we can continuously post any incidents of voter fraud, and how it can be fought in the future. Otherwise, we don’t have a future, and neither do our children.


55 posted on 11/11/2012 8:05:25 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Road Glide

I hate to say it, but one of the things that hurt Romney was the impression that Romney was the “White Candidate”........Comedians had fun lampooning how few minorities were in the crowd at Romney/Ryan rallies.


56 posted on 11/11/2012 8:06:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

I think a lot of the Asian vote were the children of Residents who were born here who are now 18+ who are voting for things like free state college grants.
A lot of that is the teacher’s union brainwashing.


57 posted on 11/11/2012 8:06:37 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: xrmusn; BilLies
I think the rhetoric and message is not getting to folks.

Too many Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Jews that I know believe that the Republican party is for White folks only. I used not to believe that they were correct but based of the comments I often see here, I'm starting to see their point. Unfortunately, if they disagree with the social and/or economic policies and fit the mold of a conservative, they are told we don't want or accept you. Then why would they want to join us? I believe a sizable amount of these folks are Democrats by default, not by choice.

I've seen a lot of good conservatives posters ask, how do we win over more “Blacks”, “Latinos”, “Jews” and “Asians? Some folks believe that we need better outreach and education (not in the school sense) to dispel the myths of of conservatism but too many on this board often reply “deport them all”, they'll never vote for us because all of them only want “free stuff” or if they aren't “wise” enough to just vote for us, then we don't need them.

That will teach those groups that we want them to join us! </sarcasm>

58 posted on 11/11/2012 8:07:52 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: xrmusn

AMEN!!! Regardless of the reasons “Why”...we need to figure out “How” to bring them in the fold! I’m a Conservative Hispanic who’s NOT looking for a freebie from Govt but I, and a lot of others like, are starting to get sick of the comments assuming we’re all the same and that we want “Free” things...I want govt off my back just like most of you! To expand my business, to hire people, etc... Instead of complaining about why most minorities groups are not voting conservatives you too need to look in the mirror and realize ( whether justified or not) that the perception is growing, by the day, that conservatives (and GOP) are racist! You need take this challenge head on and have rallies, marches, events, ethnic festivals, etc...in the heart of the liberal strongholds (big cities, blue states) and challenge these socialist in THEIR TURF! This is now trench warfare (of ideas) and you’ve allowed these leftist enter and convert places like Florida, VA, OH, IA, CO, etc....WAKE UP Conservstives! WAKE UP...


59 posted on 11/11/2012 8:08:41 AM PST by gumbie05
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To: SeekAndFind

all those minority numbers combined could not elect a president.
they keep ignoring the the elephant in the room that made it all happen...39% of the white electorate.


60 posted on 11/11/2012 8:08:44 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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