For that matter, so is English.
WTF is "trasvaginally probing American women's vaginas"?
Gramatically?
Physically?
Politically?
Posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:19 PM PST by neverdem
It is time to throw the social conservatives out of the GOP. Look at what they got us — Barack Obama. It was the social conservatives who did it. They insisted the GOP support real marriage and children. To hell with that.
I’m getting this, in various forms, from lots of tea party activists. The GOP establishment in Washington is whispering it to each other. They look at Todd Aiken and Richard Mourdock and conclude that they, not Tommy Thompson, Heather Wilson, George Allen, Scott Brown, etc. are the problem.
It is time to get rid of the social conservatives.
What’s really going on here is that the people who voted Republican, but who disagree with pro-lifers and defenders of marriage, have decided it must be those issues. They can’t see how what happened actually happened unless it happened because the issues on which they disagree with the base played a role.
This is a psychological avoidance of larger issues and does not stack up to the data.
Mitt Romney won about a quarter of the hispanic vote and a tenth of the black vote.
Those numbers may not sound like much, but in close elections they matter.
A sizable portion of those black and hispanic voters voted GOP despite disagreeing with the GOP on fiscal issues. But they are strongly social conservative and could not vote for the party of killing kids and gay marriage. So they voted GOP.
You throw out the social conservatives and you throw out those hispanic and black voters. Further, you make it harder to attract new hispanic voters who happen to be the most socially conservative voters in the country.
Next, you’ll also see a reduction of probably half the existing GOP base. You won’t make that up with Democrats who suddenly think that because their uterus is safe they can now vote Republican. Most of those people don’t like fiscal conservatism either — often though claiming that they do.
If you really need to think through this, consider MItt Romney. He is perhaps the shiftiest person to ever run for President of the United States. He shifted his position on virtually every position except Romneycare. Of all the politicians to ever run for office, he’d be the one most likely to come out and, after the Republican convention, decide he’d changed his mind. He’d be okay with abortion and okay with gay marriage.
Had he done that, he’d have even less votes.
Several million evangelicals did not vote for George W. Bush in 2000. His campaign had to work to get them back in 2004.
You may mentally decide, to escape having to deal with the other implications of this election, that if only the GOP would abandon its social conservatism it would do better. But if you do, go find yourself a new coalition because you won’t have half the votes the GOP has now. Good luck with that. In fact, if the GOP really wanted to expand with minorities, it’d keep the social conservatism and throw out the fiscal conservatism.
Richard Mourdock was one of two of the poster children for abandoning social conservatives this year. He was beaten by a pro-life Democrat.
The problem is not social conservatism. The problem is social conservatives have gotten so used to thinking of themselves as the majority they’ve forgotten how to speak to those who are not and defend against those who accuse them of being fringe, most particularly the press. Couple that with Mitt Romney’s campaign making a conscious decision to not fight back on the cultural front and you have a bunch of Republicans convinced, despite the facts, that if only the social conservatives would go away all would be fine.
It’s not time to throw out social conservatives. It’s time to accept that without them the GOP would be even a smaller party even less able to reach out to the hispanic demographic all the smart people say they need to embrace. Addition through subtraction never really works well.
I am forty and the vast majority of my high school classmates are hard core libs - either elitist libs or leech libs. The dems have been indoctrinating young minds for generations. How can we change that? It is discouraging.
One of the big reasons the Republican congress and Klintoon balanced a budget was welfare reform that included Workfare.
It would have been nice to have heard Romney pound that fact home.
Workfare didn't do any harm to Gov. Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin, either. He invented it.
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And how many abortions did Reagan stop?
I do not know if workfare harmed Gov. Thompson or not. What I do know is he lost to a radical leftist lesbian in his Senate race.
Workfare did not come close to balancing the budget. The amount of money involved was a spit into the ocean. What balanced the budget was increased revenue to the government due to economic growth, especially after the lowering of the capital gains tax. Economic growth, it works every time.
I agree. And no, I don't know how to reverse it either. Fact is, social conservative issues appear to drive away more voters than they gain. In the last two decades the only social issue liberals have lost ground on has been gun control. They've soldiered ahead on everything else with great success.
So how does losing elections help advance conservative values? The absolute minimum job requirement for a candidate is to get himself elected. If they can't accomplish this one task, the rest of their conservative bonafides aren't worth a pot of piss.
And how on earth have you reached this conclusion?
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SNIFF.
You again. I guess Romney wasn't leftist enough to be elected?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
For that matter, so is English.
WTF is "trasvaginally probing American women's vaginas"?
Gramatically?
Physically?
Politically?
Since half the party gave the abortion lip-service and GHW Bush was a hypocrite on the issue,as was half Reagan’s administration,None that I know of. But it become more so, although ultimately torn. Henry Hyde did more than anyone else by keeping federal funds from going to the abortion mills. It was a matter of vice playing tribute to virtue. Of course the other party condemned the Republics for hypocrisy when their Catholic leaders were masters at double truth.
How does fielding losing candidates help protect babies? How many babies did Akin and Mourdock save while giving their concession speeches?
Liberals are proposing this because they care deeply about the GOP and want to help us win more elections. ROTFL.
Erickson with a moment of clarity.
Without the socons, the Republican Party loses what remains of its backbone as well as any claim it may possess to moral authority. And some of us are ready to leave anyway.
You keep posting this tripe. I am fiscally conservative because I am socially conservative. God said perverts are an abomination to Him. You want to poke your finger in His eye, go ahead, but be prepared when the hammer hits, because He has already warned what happens when the modern era becomes worse than Sodom and Egypt. Remember back in the day the pharaohs were all about baby killing. History so repeats itself.
We need to run anti gay marriage and pro life ads constantly on stations that are black and Hispanic stations, even now, long before the next election. It should be done by a religious organizations that aren’t classified as tax free so they can speak their mind. It must be hammered into the heads of blacks and Hispanics that to vote for a politician that will promote either of these sins is a vote against Jesus. Give Bible verses. The next candidate needs to be very anti gay marriage and pro life so the line drawn is a clear one that can not be disputed. These issues rather than the weak links in our party, are the strongest. The dumb RINOs just can’t understand this.
Shooting guns is fun! Hell, even Rachel Maddow agrees with us on this one.
Meanwhile, the pro-life folks allowed themselves to get backed into a corner where they'll sweat, shake and smile to paint a picture of our wives and daughters getting raped and impregnated with a "gift from God" (unless, of course, their magic fallopian tubes tie themselves into a clove hitch).
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Yeah, that's a winner! You weren't really paying attention last Tuesday, were you?
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