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To: okie01; familyop

That’s not what the Constitution says. The Constitution says “two thirds of *those present*.” Not two thirds of the entire body - two thirds of those who are actually present.

A quorum of the Senate (the minimum needed to conduct any business) is 51 people present. The Democrats have 54 now.

Assuming that there are 51 Democrats present and no Republicans, which is easily done through clever scheduling and other tricks that the Republicans can’t/won’t challenge, it then only takes 34 yes votes to get a treaty through.

They have pulled similar tricks before on legislation important to them where they don’t care about bipartisanship and they needed 2/3rds of those present.

NOW do you see how screwed we are?


114 posted on 11/10/2012 10:48:37 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Assuming that there are 51 Democrats present and no Republicans, which is easily done through clever scheduling and other tricks that the Republicans can’t/won’t challenge, it then only takes 34 yes votes to get a treaty through.

I think you are being unnecessarily alarmist.

Yeah, they could try that. But they won't. The Senate and the House both follow published schedules of business.

116 posted on 11/10/2012 11:07:39 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Spktyr; CodeToad
If they pulled a "2/3 of 51 present" trick to enact an AWB or the UN treaty, it would be the same as firing on Fort Sumter.

Every Senator voting for such would be marked as a traitor and a domestic enemy. They would think very carefully before going donw that road.


126 posted on 11/11/2012 5:41:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Spktyr
That’s not what the Constitution says. The Constitution says “two thirds of *those present*.” Not two thirds of the entire body - two thirds of those who are actually present.

A quorum of the Senate (the minimum needed to conduct any business) is 51 people present. The Democrats have 54 now.

Assuming that there are 51 Democrats present and no Republicans, which is easily done through clever scheduling and other tricks that the Republicans can’t/won’t challenge, it then only takes 34 yes votes to get a treaty through.

They have pulled similar tricks before on legislation important to them where they don’t care about bipartisanship and they needed 2/3rds of those present.The first AWB was passed right before a Christmas recess at midnight with 5 members present. A quorum is assumed unless someone objects. You can thank Bob Dole for that one if I remember correctly.

134 posted on 11/11/2012 11:40:35 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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