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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“This has to be a multi-decades effort, “

This is the most important point of all, IMHO. The seeds that led to the left’s power were planted long ago, and they weren't planted by the DNC or any other American political organization. They were planted in the context of a long term goal by ideologues - foreign and domestic.

If you wanted to remove from the landscape the obstacle that America was to those worldwide who wanted to put in place the ‘all powerful-government knows best-central control model’ (no matter what you formally call it) there were finite ways to approach this - using our own open society against us.

We've all seen the ‘1963 Communist Goals for America’. It worked. This is exactly what we are dealing with. Society is most definitely manipulable. Propaganda works. Message control works. We've seen in over and over again in world history.

So, we must have long range plans, just as they did/do.

88 posted on 11/10/2012 6:30:07 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Precisely right. About a year ago, I started reading lots of books about socialism and communism. I have no doubt whatsoever we are seeing the fruits of their labors. I’m afraid it may take a 70 or 80 year cycle, just like in the old USSR, before the thorough degradation and corruption of this evil system becomes unbearable and it is thrown on the ash heap of history. Unfortunately, the Russians, Poles, Eastern Europeans, et al could always look to the “shining city on the hill” for a model to aspire to. To whom will the US aspire when it is a thoroughly totalitarian state in 40 years?

I remember in high school I thought that the world had no way to throw back the forces of tyranny and communism that were spreading over the world. Reagan proved me wrong and I became very optimistic about freedom when he was elected and the ensuing 20 years. But now I feel like I’m thrown right back to where I was in high school — dark, unstoppable forces are at work and overpowering us without any way out.


106 posted on 11/10/2012 7:15:06 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Society is most definitely manipulable. Propaganda works. Message control works. We've seen in over and over again in world history.

So does Divide & Conquer.

162 posted on 11/11/2012 3:52:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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