Posted on 11/07/2012 4:56:42 PM PST by drewh
havent seen anyone ask this yet, so I will: did the Ron Paul Revolution stay home last night?
Mitt Romney won 3 million votes less than McCain while Obama lost 10 million votes of his own from 2008.
Where did those 3 million McCain voters go?
The main part of why I believed Romney would win this time because I knew the 10 million Obama supporters would sit home but never in my worst nightmares did I imagine McCain voters would sit home. I counted on them to show up and bring friends this time to boot Obama out.
The only thing I can think of is this:
* Ron Paul supporters sat the election out because Dr. Paul because the conflict regarding the convention and the other delegate issues
* Evangelicals went through with their threat to sit home because Romney is a member of the LDS Church
And these two groups thought allowing Obama to have a second term was worth sitting home.
Is that what happened?
I never thought that was a realistic possibility because I cant imagine ever allowing the Left to not just maintain power but actually expand their reach but thats what happened last night.
Have you seen anyone crunching numbers to explain this today?
The Mainsream Media Ministry of Truth will say oh, it was all about Hispanics! but that is a red herring. That doesnt explain dropping three million votes below McCain and a total of five million votes from Bush in 2004.
Ron Paul supporters seem to explain that first drop from Bushs 2004 numbers, sitting out to the tune of 2 million when McCain ran in 2008 and then sitting out even more this time; perhaps its a combination of Ron Paul people and Evangelicals who sat home to teach everyone a lesson.
Thats an expensive lesson if this is right.
BS. The GOP gave it a good shot—the best it could do. We were just overwhelmed by the demographics. 30% of Fairfax County, the largest in the state, is foreign born. Immigrants comprise about 11% of the population in VA. Blacks are 20%. Add to that the number of government workers and the migration of liberals into the state attracted by the honeypot called the federal government and you have a state that is purple now and will trend solid blue in a decade.
Just out of curiosity, and I’m not being factitous, who would have been your “perfect” conservative candidate?
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db88.pdf explains all of it. in 4 years you will have a noticeable number of registered Republicans die. In 8 years you will really be aware of it. They mus be replaced! The numbers of missing voters demonstrate nothing more than a failure of the party managers to replenish the supply of voters!
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db88.pdf explains all of it. in 4 years you will have a noticeable number of registered Republicans die. In 8 years you will really be aware of it. They must be replaced! The numbers of missing voters demonstrate nothing more than a failure of the party managers to replenish the supply of voters!
/johnny
The way it works is you build up a large group of supporters in your party and get them to show up to vote for you.
Appeals to non existent undecided moderates in the middle will lose the election every time it's tried.
Perhaps we sat the election out because we found no fundamental difference between the candidates. Both support NDAA. Both support the Patriot Act. Neither supports a fully transparent audit of the Federal Reserve System. ...and on and on.
I think what it comes down to, at least for me, is that both parties bring forth no representatives (assuming they have any) who understand the Locke inspired Jeffersonian philosophy of Natural Law that informed our Constitution and served as the foundation on which this nation was built, defining the proper role of government. There are no representatives who can articulately convey independent, cogent thought. We are sick to death of empty rhetoric and platitudes. (Deliberately) Divisive hyperbole. And being told repeatedly by a bought and paid for media that this insipid fare is what matters to us, as if should they repeat it enough we’ll become so inured that we stop thinking for ourselves and sit up and clap on cue like trained seals.
At the end of the day we are left with representatives across both sides of the fence that are ineffective, inefficient, either too dim to recognize the paradigm they are caught fast in, or in collusion with it. Both sides have betrayed the Constitution, and in so doing, us, our history, and the future.
We are starving for something more than the sales slogans that are spoon fed to us. We long for someone who understands the Federal Reserve printing money DOES devalue our currency. That we DO see the effects of that in inflation. That policing the world IS unsustainable. That borrowing money from China to GIVE to Libya (or any other country) defies any definition of sanity. That even should we tax the rich at 100%, it will NOT get us out of this hole. That this hole we are in WAS NOT created by Obama, Bush, Clinton, or Reagan. It is the product of DECADES of malfeasance.
Wow, that was way too much of a rant. I’m sorry. I guess what it boils down to is that I am sick to death of being played for a fool by representatives who possess neither integrity nor intellect. I cannot listen to another moment of a media so poorly disguised as objective and thoughtful. I can no longer play into the hands of what I can only define as evil.
Romney won the 40-65 vote 51% to 47% and the over 65 56-44. Together they comprised 54% of the total vote. This is according to the exit polls.
IMO what was lacking was the failure to attract younger voters, the ones that watch the Dailey show, MTV, etc. where Obama has made a home. And the demographics are changing. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG. As the over 65s die out they are replaced by a cohort of Dem voters. Demography is destiny.
BINGO!!!
BTW, there's only 2,999,997 McCain't PALIN voters left to look for......
My father, my mother, and I (NC, PA, VA - respectively) stayed home. The three of us are Evangelical Christians.
It wasn't to "show anyone a lesson," it was because some values and principles are non-negotiable. In this election ABO = SDT (Same D#mn Thing) on many key issues.
For my mother and I, it was the first election we've missed since either attained voting age.
I have other family I've yet to talk to that I'm sure probably made the same decision.
Government employees are only 1 out of 7, and a great number of them are hard core Conservatives.
Do people imagine government employees absorb leftwingtard stupidity through government jobs? Actually, when you are in the belly of the beast you see the waste, nonsense, stupidity and sheer thievery propagated by the Democrats. What makes you think people who work there are necessarily dishonest?
We would like to deport the crowd from Jersey ~ they don't give up the old ways.
Now, about the demographics, if you don't get people registered who are reasonably aligned with Republican thinking, they are not going to vote Republican! The dead and injured must be replaced!
Heard today: republicans don’t get changing demographics....
No...the demographics don’t get the United States, Liberty, Freedom, Self-determination, The Constitution or the Bill of Rights and all the blessings they entail.
The same thing is true with college students all over the country. Leftists managed to move the discussion from real issues, where their candidate had no defense to his poor performance, to invented psuedo-issues they could use to scare voters into their camp. I saw numerous ads being run by “progressive” groups accusing Republican candidates of wanting to “ban contraception” because a candidate voted or supported legislation to exempt religious employers from having to offer certain kinds of birth control to their employees. Needless to say no media outlet stepped forward to comment on the misleading advertisements, or correct the impression they created. The students fell for it.
Our school systems are producing Dem voters as well. They serve as indoctrination centers--both K-12 and higher education.
"If you want this conservative to vote with you, stop trying to entice me with non-conservatives. Stop trying to feed bacon to your horse. One of the numbing numbers to come out of this fiasco is the fact that if Romney had simply gotten the same number of votes that McCain did, Romney would have won. This deflation happened without a robust third party candidate siphoning off a large number of votes. The results of this election should not cause us to think we need to "move to the center." Two establishment Republican candidates in a row have gone down, and this second time the centrist lost to a failed presidency. I mean, think about it."
-Doug Wilson
I am coming to despise them. I realize there are a few thinkers amongst Libertarians, but the majority are brats and act accordingly. That they delight in Romney going down will be short lived. They’ll be thrown into the same gutter as the rest of us when this nation collapses.
They can be brought into the fold ~ and registration drives work. Obama proved that in 2008. He also proved in 2012 that you have to keep after the new voters as well. The Dems didn't do that.
I have it on good authority that within that bloc of 90 million untamed potential Republican voters, some of them are white people. I don't particularly care. Frankly, we need to bust the backs of the Democrats preying on the East Asians in this country ~ they're just criminals. Several million new Republicans are available if we bother to tag them.
Over the next four years Hillary will get the necessary plastic surgery, lose a little weight and win easily in 2016. The demographics will favor her even more than Obama. It matters not what Obama does in his second term. Anyone with a "D" after their name will win.
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