Did “Ron Paul's Revolution” Stay Home Last Night? (where are 3 million missing McCain voters?)

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[drewh]

haven’t seen anyone ask this yet, so I will: did the Ron Paul Revolution stay home last night?

Mitt Romney won 3 million votes less than McCain while Obama lost 10 million votes of his own from 2008.

Where did those 3 million McCain voters go?

The main part of why I believed Romney would win this time because I knew the 10 million Obama supporters would sit home…but never in my worst nightmares did I imagine McCain voters would sit home. I counted on them to show up and bring friends this time to boot Obama out.

The only thing I can think of is this:

* Ron Paul supporters sat the election out because Dr. Paul because the conflict regarding the convention and the other delegate issues

* Evangelicals went through with their threat to sit home because Romney is a member of the LDS Church

And these two groups thought allowing Obama to have a second term was worth sitting home.

Is that what happened?

I never thought that was a realistic possibility because I can’t imagine ever allowing the Left to not just maintain power but actually expand their reach…but that’s what happened last night.

Have you seen anyone crunching numbers to explain this today?

The Mainsream Media Ministry of Truth will say “oh, it was all about Hispanics!” but that is a red herring. That doesn’t explain dropping three million votes below McCain and a total of five million votes from Bush in 2004.

Ron Paul supporters seem to explain that first drop from Bush’s 2004 numbers, sitting out to the tune of 2 million when McCain ran in 2008…and then sitting out even more this time; perhaps it’s a combination of Ron Paul people and Evangelicals who sat home “to teach everyone a lesson”.

That’s an expensive lesson if this is right.

[wolfman23601]

Add Loudon and Prince William in VA to that list... but even if we squeaked out wins in Va, Fl, and Oh, we still needed NH, IA, or CO.

[freeandfreezing]

Most Ron Paul cultists never had any intentional of voting for Romney. These are not real Republicans. If they stayed home they did us a favor as most probably would have voted for Obama.

From the voting data I have seen in NH your hypothesis is incorrect. They came out to vote, and often voted split ticket between Libertarian and Republican candidates. But their votes were swamped by Democratic votes from college towns and an army of people dependent on government who the Obama campaign found, misled into believing that the Republicans would harm their interests if elected, and then brought to the polls to vote.

[Jake8898]

What you read was that 32% of the electorate was republican. 38% was democrat.

We don’t yet know what percentage of the nation’s republicans turned out to vote.

[annelizly]

my my area of northern michigan we had according to the ladies running the polls a larger turnout than they had ever seen before....and they weren’t voting for obama

[IamConservative]

That can’t be true or there would be over 175 million Republicans.

I'm not sure it is a true stat. It was in a tweet I can't find anymore, however, of Romney's ~58M votes, we can't assume they are all Republicans..??..

[Nuc 1.1]

Perhaps if we had worked with them more. Respected them more. And given them a seat at the table they would not have stayed home or voted for someone else and Mitt would likely be President Elect. Yes many of the Paul supporters are immature but they are passionate and full of energy. And they are young. And the younger generation is a group we need to connect with. And I am well aware of Ron Paul's foreign policy problems but there is still much we have in common. We conservatives rightly object to the way we are treated by the pubbies elite. The Paul supporters rightly object to the way they are treated by both the pubbies elite and conservatives. Overall we have far more in common with Paul supporters than not. While I will not compromise my principles I am not afraid to listen to other points of view. And evaluate and reconsider my positions in light of lessons learned from such discussions. I want everyone in my tent. Provided we work together for the betterment of America and the preservation of freedom.

[Longbow1969]

From the voting data I have seen in NH your hypothesis is incorrect.

Very possible. I was just thinking out loud. I just know a lot of paulbots from 08' and this time around and none of them would ever consider voting for the GOP nominee. Go read their forums and it is all about sabotaging the GOP. They were just trying to take over the Republican party because they know they can't win as a 3rd party. These people aren't real Republicans.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

We had 85%.

[muawiyah]

We are looking at an 8 year period encompassing 3 presidential race and trying to find missing voters.

One thing you can count on with the GOP-e is they will invariably leave it to the county committees to come up with new voters.

That means that from the last 'W" election to the one yesterday NOBODY running the party bothered to push voter registration drives!

The Democrats direct that drive from the top down! Ask Axelrod how he does it.

So, who stayed home? Could be the 2 million Republican voters who died or became disabled between 2004 and 2008, and the 3 million Republican voters who died or became disabled between 2008 and 2012.

Remember, you don't get people to vote Republican by appealing to undecided moderates in the middle (As I think Mitt described his targets)

You get people who will vote Republican by getting them to register, and then getting them to vote.

All of this should have been dealt with earlier ~ back in the George H W Bush years ~ when it would have counted.

[mylife]

I thought we lost Hamilton (Cincinnati) county by 5 points.

[IamConservative]

What you read was that 32% of the electorate was republican. 38% was democrat. We don’t yet know what percentage of the nation’s republicans turned out to vote.

Thank you for getting this right. Sorry for the confusion.

[muawiyah]

Romney's agents on the ground in Virginia messed up the primary so bad everybody in the party has a bad taste about primaries now.

Several leading politicians probably destroyed their own political careers.

[riri]

The state of things—my daughter said in her high school (which is about 50 percent Mormon) the only issues her peers talked about were abortion, gay marriage and how Romney hates women. I wonder do these parents even converse with their kids, do they know that they “think” these are issues?

[muawiyah]

Conservatives are being replaced on a 2 for 1 basis ~ and I've indoctrinated hundreds of young people along Conservative lines. You might not encounter them often but many are Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu, Taoist, etc. ~ what's not happening is REPUBLICAN VOTERS are not being replaced! That's simply due to the failure of the party top end to show any interest in new registrations.

It's that simple ~ the missing voters equal the number of party registrants who die or become disabled over given periods of time.

DEMOGRAPHICS!

[David]

Romney was a lousy candidate.

Further, he went out of his way to piss off the Paul supporters and the Tea Party Palin supporters.

So what do you expect?

Romney refused to allow the two most significant political leaders in the party, Ms. Palin and Congressman Paul to speak at the Convention where they would have done a much more effective job of attacking Zero's performance than either Romney or Ryan was able to do in the campaign. Would of cost him nothing.

Instead, he went out of his way to insult them. No real surprise they stayed home.

[kabar]

First, once all the votes are counted, Romney will probably surpass the 59 million votes for McCain. It is now Obama with 60.6 million and Romney with 57.7 million. CA has only reported about 69% of its vote.

Second, many Reps have died over the past few years and the ranks are not being filled behind them. The number of non-Hispanic whites is declining each year as a percentage of the poplation. By 2019--just seven years from now--half of the 18 years old and younger will be minorities as defined by the USG. Each year a new wave a Democrats enters as voters.

[ArcadeQuarters]

Sounds like someone wants to keep the heat off the RINOs so the GOP elites can run another liberal in 2016. Romney won the primary “because he can win” and then he lost.

The conservative majority needs to agree on a nominee BEFORE the primary season so we can unite behind a candidate and win against the establishment liberal.

[kabar]

We lost because of demographics—simple as that. We have reached a tipping point as the Dems are on their way to becoming the permanent majority party. CA is the canary in the coal mine. The US will look like CA in 2050 demographically.

[Nuc 1.1]

I don’t our our candidate sucked. I think he failed to motivate the more emotional voters. Mitt’s arguments were generally reasoned ones and presented in a clear way. What was lacking was an emotional component to the arguments. Regan was good at it. If we got better at it, that vision thing, we could motivate some of our adversaries to join us.

[delchiante]

For national office like president, west wouldn’t get close if party bosses have their way... too conservative...
FL GOP not a fan of west either. guessing too much tea party in this uppity....