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RE :”I would agree with that analogy a lot more, if you could provide specific examples of policy you thought Romney/Ryan were hawking that revealed they were running in the wrong direction.”

The point of mine you were referencing was about how Romney campaigned as if he was winning when he was losing in critical state polls. So playing it light, dropping Benghazi, playing as if it was in the bag already was running in the wrong direction, not fighting aggressively.

The broken compass was Rush and others here saying all the polls were wrong and to ignore them. (I can probably dig up >50 posts that say this) I am sure Romney knew this was not true but he acted as if it was.

As far as policies go :I don't take POTUS campaign promises seriously esp if they require congress.

I would agree with that analogy a lot more, if you could provide specific examples of policy you thought Romney/Ryan were hawking that revealed they were running in the wrong direction.

The point of mine you were referencing was about how Romney campaigned as if he was winning when he was losing in critical state polls. So playing it light, dropping Benghazi, playing as if it was in the bag already was running in the wrong direction, not fighting aggressively.

I think that's a decent argument to make. At the time he seems to have made it, he was rising in the polls without going negative. The Benghazi story was getting lots of air-play without him having to push it. Distancing himself from it, depoliticizing it had some positive aspects to it also. The hurricane knocked that story right off the radar. If he had clung to it, pushed it in that atmosphere, I'm not convinced it would have worked out positive for him. It could have backfired too.

The broken compass was Rush and others here saying all the polls were wrong and to ignore them. (I can probably dig up >50 posts that say this) I am sure Romney knew this was not true but he acted as if it was.

There's a basis for saying that. On the other hand there were reasons to think the polls may not have taken everything into consideration.

The polls did not seem to be taking into consideration that women, the youth, blacks, and voter fervor were waning. Naturally we were going to look at some of this and make extrapolations. Those extrapolations weren't all that hair-brained, when you look at the over-all vote. The Democrat vote dropped considerably. Where we were wrong, was thinking the Republicans would muster a larger vote based on the misguided and reckless Obama years.

I didn't see our side failing to get out the vote. For that I do deserve to be taken to task. I still don't think the take-away from the tea leaves I and others were reading, was all that misguided. It was wrong. It wasn't unreasonable.

As far as policies go :I don't take POTUS campaign promises seriously esp if they require congress.

Okay, some people will agree with that. And if you and they do, then election campaigns mean nothing at all to you. For millions of others, the campaigns do mean something to them. I think we have to wage them, and do the best we can to present sound policies.

Look, I believe you and I agree that Romney was in ways a big North East liberal. We probably also agree that once he was nominated, there were Republican across this nation who checked out. I was one day short of being one of them.

Being someone who did not see Romney as our best bet, I none the less came to believe he was better than I had first thought he was. I think there were things he would push, that I would appreciate. Economic policy, national defense, eliminating most of Obamacare, not seeing our nation as a colonialist power needing to be taken down..., there were some things we could buy into.

IMO our downfall was that not enough Republicans were able to see this and buy in. On the other hand, perhaps they shouldn't have. We are left with the Kenyan, and his desire to take our nation down.

Now it is important the lessons we glean from all this. This process is very important. If we come up with the wrong conclusions and operate off them, we could make this loss exponentially worse.