Where’d they all go? Even if they were turn coats and voted O,they aren't reflected in the totals. FRAUD on a huge scale?
It looks like the freepers that said that Romney would hurt turnout, were correct.
This took millions of disgruntled conservatives, not a handful of freepers.
The vote count is suspicious, because it doesn’t seem to add up at all. Everyone I’ve talked to says they have never seen so many people voting Republican before, and that’s often in places that were safe for Democrats.
In Washington Romney was slightly leading for awhile, and then all of a sudden Romney added something on the order of about 100,000 votes while Obama added over 600,000 votes. All voting in Wqashington is now by USPS Mail. There are no longer any polling places. It looked very very suspicious.
King County (Seattle) is known for cooking up just as many paper ballots as were needed to win the Governor’s seat everytime some more Republican ballots were recoveered from missing absentee ballot boxes and so forth.
Something doesn’t add up.
Romney was getting monster crowds while whats his face was not.
Something else that i never understood was the black vote. The eligle black voters must be around 7-8%?
Same with the Hispanic vote. Gay voters even less...
Reeeeeeelleeeeee???????????
Uhm, NO....
I work with white blue collar men here in Iowa. Most all of them hate Obama....but they seem to hate Romney too.
Why are the netwroks allowed to report ‘results’ 3 hours before the polls close in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific time zones???
I don’t think that should happen. It discourages some voters from going to the polls.
How many Romney votes were electronically recorded as Obama votes??? Too many incidents of such happening to make me at all comfortable.
I do not think there was a big “no show” among conservatives. I think most decided, like me and many other here, to take a big bite of that dung sandwich and vote once more for a RINO. There is just one major problem and that is demographics.
1] Our country is no longer a peaceful, freedom loving, individualistic society. The advent of technology and communications has seen to that. Cell phones and the personal computer have allowed us to have instantaneous access to both the good and bad in life. We are no longer islands that can be alone and untouchable. We have lost our individualism as a whole.
2] Minorities. The Negro population is just under 13%. Due to abortion and other factors they may not move much from that percentage but they vote as a monolithic entity. As a whole, they do not share the same values as the people who built and developed this country for the first two centuries. They do not like Caucasians and they transmit that feeling every day. We try to ignore that and say those that do are the outliers but that is not the case. They work as a monolithic group, much the same as the Muslims. We may find some who are ”moderate” but they never condemn the actions or words of the ”radicals” that spout racist jargon and swear to kill/enslave whitey.
3] South Of The Border Types (SOTBT). about 16 or 17% of the population (guessing) Hispanic is a made up word and I refuse to use it. These people are mostly raised in third world crap holes and what little education they have has been the repetitive mantra of how the United States has taken everything from the world by force and thus the need to get some back.
They have no clue as to real history nor their own failings as a society because the despots who run there countries will not let that be taught.
They come here as Socialists, or worse, to get jobs, but more importantly to get as much free stuff as they can take. Living 30 to a small rented house, great standards from the cardboard huts they had to live in down there, and getting most of their money under the table they can save a lot of cash that can be sent back to those third world dumps. They get amnesty, citizenship, and then can vote as another monolithic block to maintain all those freebies.
The bigger problem with these people is they procreate like rabbits. They will overwhelm the majority Caucasians in just another few years, and voting with the Negroes will ensure our fall into Communism.
4] Caucasian liberals. They have allowed us to become the disaster we have now by making all the unconstitutional policies that have allowed all the minorities to get the free stuff via the outright theft of our money via illegal taxes.
We have allowed these white liberals to come into being by letting the Communists take over our schools and our governments. That allowed the indoctrination of communist principles to our children and has now created enough of them to make the tipping point we saw last night.
5] Once the minorities gain control they will start to eliminate the majority. Just as in Africa, where minority tribes mass murdered majority tribes it can happen here. The New Black Panthers have a voiced and written policy condoning the outright murder of Caucasians, without so much as a peep from supposed main stream Negroes. LaRaza (sp?) also.
I will not spam FR with any more writings like this but as of last night this is my conclusion. I hope not to get banned as I love posting here now and then but the reality of the world must be seen.
Nothing more to say......they’d rather stop Her than the Won....and they did
BS. Every single FReeper helped, FRiend.
The final outcome was predicted ... but ignored; and how those
who accurately predicted it ... truly, truly wish we were wrong.
DON’T ANY OF YOU BLAME ME... I CAVED IN A SUPPORTED MITT 100%... EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT HE WAS A PROGRESSIVE LIAR AND A LOSER... BUT I TOOK ANOTHER ONE FOR THE TEAM... I AM NO LONGER ON THE REPUBLICAN TEAM. THAT PARTY LIED TO ALL OF US FOR THE PAST YEAR AND THEY LIED MORE TO US YESTERDAY THAN OBAMA HAS... AND EVERYTHING OUT OF obama’s MOUTH IS A LIE!
LLS
I didn’t vote for Mittens.
Some conservatives did but I couldn’t stand his liberal views and I felt one way or another nothing much would change if he won.
So we are back to square one.
Republican turnout was record high.
I took the current vote totals for each state from FOX's page and divided by the % reporting to estimate what the total votes would be when 100% reported, and totalled that. Overall we compute at just 90% reporting. I got 67M Obama, and 63M Romney, 52% v. 48%, compared to 69M and 60M, 53% v. 46% in 2008 for Obama v. McCain. As FOX only provided 2 two digits for % reporting I can only claim two digits precision, but that 52 % v. 48% actually round from 51.54% and 48.46%, a D+3 electorate instead of 2008's D+7. This presumes those votes not in go the same as those already reported and discounts whatever third party votes were cast as FOX didn't provide them. R&R DID do better than McCain-Palin and Obama did do worse this time, just not enough so. In 2004 Bush beat Kerry 62M to 59M so Romney got out even more votes than that.
There is plenty of blame to be cast, but let us cast it accurately.
Y'all were told. You have to have someone folks can vote *for*.
Who was going to vote for Romney?
What does he offer the Christian Right? He has been Pro-Choice and Pro-Homo his whole life... And he is a Mormon to boot.
What does he offer the Fiscal conservatives? He is a businessman... that's good. But he also believes in Keynes, and big government... WAY not good.
What does he offer the Military conservatives? Nothing. No experience. No military background in his self or his family. No Foreign Policy experience.
What does he offer the libertarians and civil-libertarians? Nothing. He's a big govt. guy and always has been... He is a gun-grabber from way-back, and hasn't got a clue what federalism is or what a constructionist Constitutional interpretation is.
He got the 'I'm scared of Obama' vote, the 'Mormon "He's our guy, and may be the savior mentioned in the White Horse prophecy," vote', and the Republican party faithful vote - which turned out to be pretty much the same damn thing.
But 'Conservative' is NOT the same as 'Republican', and without the Conservative base, there is no way to win.
All y'all have to get outside of the Republican echo-chamber and mutual masturbation society. If you are a Conservative, that means you have to stand on Conservative principles. Stop falling for this 'boogey-man' bullcrap, and support Conservatives. Even if they are outside of the Republican fold.
Time and time again, it is proven that rah-rah Republicanism is utter failure - Even if you get them elected, unless they happen to actually BE conservative and ACT upon Conservative principles, at best there is only a Pyrrhic victory. And most often, there is complete loss...
Folks like me are shouted down and ridiculed as being 'purists'... Well, 'Here's yer sign', AGAIN, even yet:
What we know, that y'all can't seem to grasp is that the principles that we stand upon are timeless and immovable. But those principles are not held by ALL of us. Some are owned by the Christian Right.... Some by the Fiscal Conservatives... Some by the Military Conservatives... and etc. The minute that ANY ONE group is sent to the back of the bus, when any one of those deeply held convictions is compromised, we no longer have the votes to win. The great Conservative Juggernaut splits into it's original factions and sinks back into the vast sea of voters.
So the purity that so many here hate is the very thing that allows success. The very act of compromising on principle removes the chance of success.
Pragmatism is the death of us all. You can blame any other thing you want, but the truth is that liberalism is succeeding, not by the weight of it's own merit, but because there is no opposition to it - And the reason there is no opposition to it is because well meaning folks keep voting in more moderates (pragmatists) and liberals into the Republican party - that which used to be the supposed opposition.
Sorry, this isn't aimed at you specifically - Your statement is just so obvious to me that I had to sound off.
Or a significant numbers of votes were flipped from McCain to Obama. The days of stuffing ballot boxes is over...115% voter participation is easily discovered. Now they have machines that will flip your vote from R to D 1 in 20 times.
Nixon got more votes in 1960 when he lost than he did in 1968 when he won.
So, what impact did Freepublic.com have relating to the Romney loss?
I think given these data, the answer to what happened Tuesday is obvious: Apathy on the part of the base, coupled with a predominant sentiment (on “our” side, conservative and conservative leaning) that anyone could beat Obama this time around, led to lower voter turnout.
Couple all of that with the fact that the enhusiasm level *for* Obama was much higher than anticipated, (and maybe even a little Sandy help), and that’s pretty much it, game over.
The take home lesson from this is that one should never take anything for granted (I.e, believing turnout wouldn’t be like in 2008), and also never “support” a candidate you don’t REALLY support.
There’s just no substitute for enthusiasm. Not in politics anyway.
What’s still a shocker to me is to believe that half this country was/is STILL “enthusiastic” for Obama! It’s like we live in another world.