Obama Revealed More Than His Birth Certificate Last Year

American Thinker ^ | 11/4/12 | Ronald Jay Polland

[Mad_as_heck]

Everything about Obama is more top secret than the plans for D-day. Remember the wing ding when Bush wouldn’t pony up his dental records fast enough? The whole situation is surreal and continues to emit a definite smoke = fire vibe.

[Sherman Logan]

But how could, given this proposed scenario, any of this have anything to do with BO’s eligibility to be elected President.

[noinfringers2]

There are many historical dots to be connected relative to Kenya and Obama’s mother as well as Obama himself.

[Tex-Con-Man]

Frank Marshall Davis is not Obama's real father.

Dreams From My Real Father is nothing but a "Loose Change" kinda hoax. The director has a history of making crazy conspiracy videos. (Paul McCartney Really is Dead and Elvis Found Alive.)

Below are links that thoroughly debunk claims made in the DVD....

This first picture is a link to a YouTube video which proves the girl in this DVD is NOT Stanley Ann Dunham...

This image of some other fine DVD's by Director Joel Glbert is a link to a website that contains an in-depth look into Gilbert and Dreams from My Real Father...including an interview with the man who actually owns the home Frank Marshall Davis lived in. All information is sourced and linked where possible.

If you read through all the information on the website, you'll understand what a complete fraud the director is and how Dreams From My Real Father is one giant lie.

[Candor7]

Jim, the thread article is worth a read. This pretty much proves that Obama has not released any birth certificate. They are all forgeries.

[Candor7]

It is clear that from June 2008 until April 2011, the Hawaii Health Department blatently refused to confirm that they had issued any short-form birth certificate to Obama or anyone acting as his proxy. The Department refused to authenticate the scan image posted on Obama’s web site and the respective photos posted on Factcheck.org. Dr. Jerry Corsi who runs World Net Daily, was the first person to report that the Hawaii Dept. refused to authenticate Obama’s false online COLB. The reasons are obvious now: the Hawaiian Dept. never produced a genuine 2008 Certification of Live Birth for Obama, or even a genuine 2007 Certification of Live Birth; therefore there was nothing to authenticate.

The only way Obama or anyone could obtain a 2007 COLB, date-stamped June 6, 2007, in June 2008 is to have one forged, and that is exactly what Obama brought about. Normally, if anyone wanted to authenticate or verify a birth document, they would have a forensic document expert compare the forged copy with the real document. However, if no real document had existed, then there is nothing for a forensic document examiner to examine.

It is clear that Obama has been hoisted on his own petard, and the world should learn of it BEFORE the election on Tuesday.

This concludes the issue as to whether Obamas published birth certificates are forgeries. They conclusively are forgeries.Obama should be charged with electoral fraud, tried and jailed.

[thecodont]

This concludes the issue as to whether Obamas published birth certificates are forgeries. They conclusively are forgeries.Obama should be charged with electoral fraud, tried and jailed.

Again I raise the question:

With what birth certificate, if any, did BO establish his eligibility (must be a U.S. citizen in either case) for the public offices he previously held, those of IL state Senate and U.S. Senate?

[Candor7]

With what birth certificate, if any, did BO establish his eligibility (must be a U.S. citizen in either case) for the public offices he previously held, those of IL state Senate and U.S. Senate? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That question needs to be asked in courts of law for each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency.It is also a question that needs to be asked in Congress of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, both of whom sponsored resolutions that accepted Obama as a qualified ,duly elected
president.

No newspaper or political hack will ever get a genuine response from Obama. The reply to that question must be compelled by due process and pain of perjury, in a venue which has the constitutional authority to decide the issue.

Or it NEEDS to become an generally publicly accepted electoral issue.

Choose your weapon?

[Sherman Logan]

each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency.

Do electoral commissions or Secretary's of State actually do that? Or do they just accept and file the paperwork?

I think there is little doubt they should certify legitimate eligibility, but AFAIK no state actually gives any entity involved in the process the power to do so.

IOW, I do not believe there is any person or group in any state authorized to unilaterally disqualify a presidential candidate as ineligible. Not even after the last four years. Numerous efforts were made to do so in various states, and every one was voted down by the legislature.

And do we really want there to be? Do we want a GOP candidate ruled ineligible by a CT commission, requiring an extended court case to have the ruling overturned?

[Fred Nerks]

...That question needs to be asked in courts of law for each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency

maybe butter can tell you something about that.

[butterdezillion]

After being pressured by a vocal group of constituents, AZ SOS Ken Bennett did the right thing and legally requested a verification of birth facts for Barack Obama, which is allowable by Hawaii law for government agencies who need to verify facts in order to maintain lists or to render services to somebody. The HDOH stalled for months, trying to claim Bennett was not qualified to receive a verification. Bennett, receiving constant pressure from his constituents and wanting the issue to go away, went to the news media saying that he might have to keep Obama off the ballot because Hawaii wouldn’t verify his birth facts.

The pressure succeeded in getting Hawaii to respond to Bennett by sending a verification, but though the law required the HDOH to verify everything submitted that they could certify as legally true, they STILL did not verify any submitted birth facts for Obama. They verified that they have a birth certificate for Obama and that the claims that are on the White House BC image “match” the record on file, but would NOT certify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” - thus confirming that it is NOT.

Responding to a later request by KS SOS Chris Kobach, the HDOH similarly confirmed that the claims on the WH BC image “match” the original record but would NOT certify that the information contained in the WH image is “identical to” the information in the original record - so whatever they mean by “match”, it is NOT “identical to”.

So the legal process worked. Two SOS’s were able to find out from the HDOH whether they have a legally valid birth certificate for Obama and whether Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961 to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. The HDOH’s legal answer was no, they could not verify any of that because they have no legally valid record. It was answered according to the requirements of the governing Hawaii statute - only verifying the things that could be verified.

But the media reported the exact opposite, failing to look at what was actually submitted to registrar Alvin Onaka and failing to consider the law that governed Onaka’s response. Bennett, fearing ridicule from the media and simply wanting the issue to go away, said he would allow Obama on the ballot.

Attorney Larry Klayman sent a letter to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer, pointing out that HI registrar Onaka had confirmed that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid and that there is thus nobody in America who can lawfully certify that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS, since there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama absent a legally valid BC. It would be subornation of perjury to counsel anybody to sign a certification for Barack Obama. That letter was delivered to Bauer’s office by courier at 2:27pm EDT 4 days before the DNC Convention began. The members of the DNC Executive Committee were all sent carbon copies of the letter as well, which were received at their offices the day the Convention began.

Bauer had Villaigarosa and Germond sign the certification anyway, suborning perjury. He submitted what he knew to be a perjurious Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) to nearly every Secretary of State within a day of the perjurious document being signed

Every state SOS, state dem party chair, and state AG received a carbon copy of the letter to Bauer as well. They also received a letter from a group of concerned citizens including Tom Ballantyne, Terry Lakin (formerly Lt Col Lakin, who spent 6 months in jail because he refused to obey orders that we now know were not lawful), CMDR Charles Kerchner (retired), and Lawrence Sellin (retired Spec Ops) pointing out their lawful duties.

And the state SOS’s and AG’s also received a letter from me, pointing out that the evidence previously used to presume that Obama is eligible... actually doesn’t contradict Onaka’s disclosure that Obama’s BC is legally non-valid - particularly the 1960-64 birth index, which has been proven to contain names from legally non-valid BC’s. My letter pointed out that any certification they received would immediately be known as fraudulent, and allowing a fraudulent OCON to be used to commit election fraud would make them complicit in the crime.

EVERY SOS BLEW THIS OFF. Some wrote back to me saying that the law doesn’t allow them to disqualify a candidate or to require proof of anything - totally sidestepping what I had just said to them about it being PUBLICLY KNOWN ALREADY THAT ANY OCON WOULD HAVE TO BE PERJURIOUS AND FRAUDULENT. It wasn’t an issue of needing more information; it was about already having it legally confirmed that the OCON was fraudulent.

I spent about 45 minutes on the phone with the legal counsel for NE SOS John Gale. I was told that even if Germond, Villaigarosa, and Bauer were sitting in jail convicted of perjury and fraud for that OCON, the SOS would still have to put Obama’s name on the ballot because NE law doesn’t say that the OCON submitted has to be LAWFUL (non-perjurious and non-fraudulent).

IOW, our system allows KNOWN FRAUD AND PERJURY to be effective in getting a name on the ballot.

I have yet to see whether the certifications for medical licenses, etc specifically say that documents have to be LAWFUL (non-perjurious and non-fraudulent). If this is the standard applied across-the-board, then every law requiring paperwork is gutless unless it specifically states that perjurious and fraudulent documents will be rejected.

Like I’ve been saying for a long time, this is about the rule of law. We don’t have it in the United States - at all. Every Secretary of State in the country knows that Obama’s Hawaii BC is non-valid and Obama cannot be certified as eligible. EVERY ONE OF THEM ACCEPTED WHAT THEY KNEW WAS A FRAUDULENT, PERJURIOUS OCON.

[Sherman Logan]

Just curious. You apparently believe Obama is not qualified to be president, not just that inadequate evidence has been prevented to document his eligibility.

Do you think he was born outside the USA? Or to another woman?

What specifically do you think is the reason he is ineligible?

[GregNH]

What a time to be re-hashing all this!

When the additional pictures were released, showing it folded, it was obvious that the paper was heavier than security paper as can be seen in this AT article showing genuine COLB's. They wrinkle quit easily. His is plain 20# copy paper.

[null and void]

However, if no real document had existed, then there is nothing for a forensic document examiner to examine.

Even the most mediocre document examiner can look at an electronic image of a badly forged document and determine that is is NOT authentic.

I wouldn't need to touch a document purportedly signed by Benjamin Franklin to know to a level of certainty that it fake, if I could see from the image that the signature was made with a ballpoint pen!

[null and void]

Also, could you explain to me why some birthers are obsessed with Mr. Davis being the “real” father? If they were able to prove this, perhaps by DNA evidence, then they would destroy their own case, as Davis was indisputably a native-born American citizen. This would make both BO’s parents native-born citizens, and make him one by the strictest possible standard.

I seek the truth, no matter where it leads.

Even if that truth renders all the work I've done in the last 4-1/2 to 5 years moot.

Even if that truth means another 5 years of endless told-you-so's.

[butterdezillion]

I believe he was born outside the USA. There are at least 4 BC#’s that are on current BC’s that could not have been on those BC’s in 1961, including Obama’s, Stig Waidelich’s, Virginia Sunahara’s, and Johanna Ah Nee. The HDOH has confirmed that the BC# on the WH image is the BC# on Obama’s BC at their office, and the only way that could happen is if they issued a new BC for Obama based upon a law enforcement official claiming it was necessary, to protect Obama - in which case the BC will say whatever Eric Holder (or whichever henchmen he used for this job) says it has to say.

It is almost certain that the record they had on hand before creating this new BC did NOT claim a Kapiolani birth. If it had been a Kapiolani birth there would be no reason for his record to be legally non-valid. The HDOH at the time double-checked with the hospitals to make sure that any mistakes or problems were corrected.

The HDOH has confirmed that Obama amended his BC in late 2006/early 2007 and that there is supplemental evidence filed to support the claims on his BC, which would only be the case for a late and/or altered BC.

My belief is that Obama’s grandmother reported the birth to the local HI registrar in 1961, but since neither the mother nor baby were available to be examined in Hawaii the registrar was unable to get an affidavit from a HI doctor which was needed to complete the BC, which is why he had no 1961 BC#. When Obama was considering a run for POTUS he requested a copy of his HI BC but couldn’t get one because it wasn’t complete. So he amended it to add what was missing, using forged documents, and thought he was fine. But when he requested his COLB in June of 2007 he got back a COLB that was marked as “late” and “altered” and had either a 2006 BC# or else a BC# that was at the tail end of the 1961 BC#’s. That’s when they had to start the criminal fraud.

They arranged to use somebody else’s BC# on a COLB which they forged to put in the passport file. They took trophy photos of the forged document at that time, in Obama’s Chicago campaign office. It didn’t have a seal on it because the passport office would scan the document and a seal would not necessarily be expected to show up.

When questions arose they posted an image of the forged COLB, with the BC# redacted. The absence of the seal and BC# were problematic so they digitally added a seal to a couple of the photos they had taken earlier and had Factcheck claim to have taken the photos. They thought they were set.

When Clintons planned to present a petition challenging Obama’s eligibility at the 2008 Dem Convention, they started the “Recreate ‘68” idea, to try to scare away Hillary based on the threat of race riots. When that didn’t work they killed Bill Clinton’s good friend Bill Gwatney a couple weeks before the Convention - the AK Dem Party chair who had agreed to present the petition at the Convention. When that didn’t work they killed Rep. Stephanie Tubbs, who had agreed to present the petition after Gwatney was killed. When that didn’t work they threatened to kill Chelsea, and that got the Clintons to give it up. They also threatened the media. I believe they also made other threats but what is documented so far is that they threatened the media both before and after the election.

But people kept pushing to see the long-form. And requests from the HDOH were showing big obfuscation and problems there. And there were state eligibility bills being proposed - most critically in Arizona. After the midterm landslide in Nov of 2010, AZ legislator Judy Burges was saying she would push for an eligibility bill again, only this time with a veto-proof R majority. The bill would require a long-form BC to be submitted.

Newly-elected HI governor Neil Abercrombie was concerned. He said so publicly shortly before Christmas in 2010 in articles published in the NYT and LA Times - saying he was going to find a way to disclose Obama’s long-form. At the same time, the media was trying to portray Tea Partiers as being “birthers” and being violent. The AZ shooting that killed Judge John Roll (the guy who would hear eligibility challenges and was replaced by an Obama appointee) was framed that way initially.

At that point I believe that Eric Holder or a surrogate requested Abercrombie’s HDOH to create a new BC for Obama, claiming that it was necessary for his safety.That was the only way they could get the official record for Obama to have the BC# which had been used on the passport forgery/”Factcheck” photos. (New BC’s created this way were required to be given new BC#’s and to NOT replace the original record in the file - so if somebody knows the real information they could get the BC with that info, but the registrant could use this fake BC for “safety reasons”.)

But there was a snag. Neither Director Neal Palafox nor registrar Alvin Onaka would go along with it. That provision is only allowable for people who were born in Hawaii and there was no legally-valid record showing that Obama was born in Hawaii.

So Abercrombie balked when asked by a reporter how his search for the BC was going, since he hadn’t yet been able to get a new BC created. Claimed there was something “actually written down” in the archives - which makes no sense if there was a routine BC for him in the bound volumes. That statement got reported on Drudge, and Abercrombie’s friend Mike Evans called him up to see what was going on. Abercrombie told him there was no BC for Obama in HI, and Evans reported it on multiple radio programs. The issue was getting much worse, and Trump started picking up on it.

Abercrombie got rid of Palafox and put in Fuddy, who immediately set about claiming that they hadn’t been allowing any long-form copies to be issued since 2000. Never mind that there was video footage of long-forms being ordered at the HDOH office. It was necessary to get rid of the ability to get long-forms because they had to shift around BC#’s and it would be a big pain if they had to forge long-forms for all those people. Much easier if everything was done with computer printouts. They switched around BC#’s in the database (using BC#’s held by dead infants and complicit living persons) and released some records trying to make the BC#/”date filed” discrepancies go away (so the BC#’s would seem to be issued either randomly or alphabetically).

Onaka created a new BC for Obama under orders from Fuddy, but had it done poorly, in protest. He let Fuddy see it copied and certified (but with a certifying statement she didn’t know said TXE instead of THE, again in protest). After Fuddy saw the copy being made and left, Onaka had the BC stamped with LATE and ALTERED, and typed in a notation of the evidence submitted for Obama’s original, non-valid BC. The state registrar has the authority to refuse to issue a certified copy of a fraudulent BC, and Onaka knew that without the references showing the BC to be non-valid this would be an unlawful BC, since it was created for somebody who was NOT known to be born in Hawaii using a provision only allowable for Hawaii-born persons. He added a tiny smiley face to his signature as another red flag and put the copy in a sealed envelope, to surprise Obama’s attorney when she opened it up.

When Corley opened it up she had a cow. They had to get somebody to take off the LATE and ALTERED stamps and get rid of the notations of the evidence filed. That’s why they had to use layers to create the forged BC image even though Hawaii says their record makes the same claims as is on the WH image and they claimed to have given a certified (and thus paper) copy of the BC to Obama’s lawyer.

And since then Onaka’s red flags have caught the attention of a lot of people, including Sheriff Joe’s posse. Lead investigator Mike Zullo has said that the smiley face and TXE was what initially changed his mind from thinking the “birther” stuff was a bunch of garbage.

When Onaka confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama’s BC is non-valid, I began to think that Onaka is one of the good guys. Or at least somebody who knows that when the computer and microfilm records are audited (hopefully in a criminal investigation after Obama is ousted) this whole big mess will be exposed. He has been consistent in 3 verifications now, and my opinion of him has drastically improved with each red flag he has put out there.

Though this is long, it is extremely condensed, leaving out a lot of details and supporting evidence that all lines up. I’ve left out a lot. But this scenario explains the “WTF” events we’ve all observed in the past 4 years and I know of nothing that contradicts anything in this theory.

Somebody admitted to me in a comment to my blog that he helped commit the felony of Obama’s forgery but said that it would be useless to report him because Obama is immune and so is he. Said the FBI would laugh if I reported it because the FBI knows they did it and would cover for those involved. Could be somebody just goofing, but he went to the trouble of using a gateway to hide where he posted from, and tripwires to fry the computer of anybody who got close to finding where he really posted from. That seems a bit excessive for somebody who was “just kidding” , wouldn’t you say?

[Jane Long]

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[Yaelle]

I believe he did not use either forgery to establish his citizenship and eligibility at all. 49 states ratified his candidacy flat out. Hawaii had an issue with doing so and left one sentence out of their confirmation. Nancy pelosi signed off on It as the speaker of the house. No formal USA investigation of any proof ever happened.

[mom.mom]

In the article it states that Obama has spent $2 million to keep his records hidden. Obama doesn’t have $2 million to spend on that, so who is paying?

Did he record it as a “gift” on his income tax?