Posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
As was noted on AT recently, a retired State Department Foreign Service Officer said: "Our Benghazi facility was a half-baked operation. It was not a consulate. It was a 'facility' with an ambiguous purpose, at least as far as the unclassified world is concerned."
If it was not a consulate, then it was not sovereign United States territory. This fact has important legal consequences -- as was only just touched upon (at ~13:00, but pick up at ~10:00 for full context) by Newt Gingrich on Fox News in his appearance on Greta Van Susteren's Oct. 30 show (caution: auto-play).
One of these consequences may be that the United States had no "legal" authority under international law unilaterally to violate sovereign Libyan airspace by sending in a military force or by engaging attackers with U.S. aircraft, irrespective of the fact that U.S. citizens, including an ambassador, were the ones being attacked.
The purpose of this "facility" and its associated "safe-house" is increasingly becoming less ambiguous, as J.D. Longstreet points out:
That CIA "safe-house" has troubled me from the very beginning. ... What was the CIA doing there? There was no embassy in Benghazi. In fact, the building attacked was not even a consulate. If anything, it was a "mission" ... this was NOT an embassy.
It no longer reasonably can be denied that what was going on in Benghazi was "Fast and Furious in the Maghreb" being run by Ambassador Stevens, et al. at the direction of "fill in the blank."
He continues:
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Well: You have to remember we aren’t talking about a real man here.
When I do carrier ops and flying in Microsoft Flight Simulator in general I seldom indulge. Unless I really pull of a stupid move and say slam into the flight deck. Then it is time to lift one up to the lost aviator.
Well, they did more than not act, they affirmatively STRIPPED what security was already there.
Then they deliberately sent the ambassador into this cesspool.
What should be concluded from this?
You don’t have to convince me! lol
Panetta’s previous job before becoming SecDef may have
had something to do with spawning this F & F Part Deux.
So that is it....one for the lost aviator...LOL!
Nice picture....
FEBRUARY 2011 : (IRELAND : LIBYAN MAHDI AL HARATI LEAVES FOR LIBYA AT THE OUTSET OF THE LIBYAN "ARAB SPRING" ------- See GAZA FLOTILLA / MAVI MARMARA) Prior to the Libyan rebellion against Qaddafi, al-Harati was living in exile in Ireland. He is reported to have returned to Libya in February, at the very outset of the uprising. On his own account, barely eight months earlier he participated in the “Free Gaza” flotilla aboard the Mavi Marmara. -------Libyan Rebel Commander: I Was on the Mavi Marmara, nationalreview.com ^ | 12-28-11 | John Rosenthal , http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2826083/posts, Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:27:23 PM by bayouranger
This "Libyan rebel commander" was on the very boat whose "peaceful" passengers attacked israeli commandoes as they came aboard to search for blockade busting items such as weapons destined for Hamas.
Just for the record, the most of the perps who launched the attack on the Israelis on board this vessel belonged to the group IHH. The IHH is a Turkish terror group that bombed some historic sites in Turkey associated with Ataturk and worked against the previous secular government, before Obama's buddy Erdogan came to power. Edogan as we know has arrested a number of secular Turkish generals and officers.
Also on board that vessel were Obama's friends from Code Pink.
The Obama admin's terrorist denial syndrome is getting old.
What a shock. We elect a Chicago Mob bagman to be President and he ends up running guns all over the world. Who could ever see that coming ?
IHH's Deep, Longstanding Terror Ties
INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News ^ | June 8, 2010 | n/a
Posted on 06/10/2010 3:22:46 AM PDT by Cindy
IPT News June 9, 2010
SNIPPET: "The Turkish-based charity that helped drive last week's deadly confrontation with Israeli commandos has deep ties to Hamas and other terrorist groups. The Hamas ties are not in question. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and IHH officials simply do not acknowledge that Hamas is a terrorist group."
SNIPPET: "U.S. officials have expressed concern over the fact that "IHH representatives have met with senior Hamas officials in Turkey, Syria, and Gaza over the past three years," but IHH is not a designated terrorist organization in the United States.
It's fair to ask, why not?" SNIPPET: "Hamas is a designated terrorist organization in the U.S...." SNIPPET: "The U.S. Treasury has designated an umbrella organization of which IHH is part due to its fund-raising activities on behalf of Hamas and Hamas-controlled organizations in the West Bank and Gaza. The Union of Good is a collection of charities run by Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi. .......
According to the Spanish daily ABC, a Libyan rebel commander who played a key role in overthrowing the rule of Muammar Qaddafi previously participated in the May 2010 attempt to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza aboard the Turkish-owned vessel the Mavi Marmara. The operation famously culminated in a deadly clash between Israel Defense Force commandos and “activists” armed with iron rods and knives aboard the ship. ....According to his December 17 article, ABC correspondent Daniel Iriarte unexpectedly ran into al-Harati and two other Libyan associates of Belhadj in Syria, where the Spanish journalist was working on a story on the “Free Syrian Army,” the recently formed rebel force that aims to overthrow Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. ------ Libyan Rebel Commander: I Was on the Mavi Marmara, nationalreview.com ^ | 12-28-11 | John Rosenthal Posted on 12/28/2011 3:27:23 PM PST by bayouranger
No reason to think Libya diplomats might need good American security.../s
The Marxist’s friends from Code Pink...
I remember Bernadine Dorn and her spouse, Bill Ayres, were on a flotilla, but this is not the same one, right?
Please leave me out of your Chianti arrangements...LOL.
And, BTW, I haven’t pictured my sweet Ernest drinking Chianti or anything else, but that would be A-OK with me anyway.
Thanks, Ernest.
My “cross-border authority” meme is picking up steam.
Here is the current Friday FR thread with the PJ Media essay I wrote for them today:
“The Smoking Gun of Benghazi? Only the president can grant cross-border authority.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2953720/posts
The original PJ Media link:
If you post a comment to the PJ Media thread, it might stay on their home page longer, and eventually be seen by a reporter who gives a damn about discovering the truth about Benghazi.
Thanks for the note ....and all that you are doing .
I don't think they were on this one which had the commando raid, but the group they helped organize along with Code Pink, was called the Free Gaza Movement, and it was the organizer of this one that was raided and some others, as well as the flotilla Ayers and Dohrn were to go on which was the following one.
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