Posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
As was noted on AT recently, a retired State Department Foreign Service Officer said: "Our Benghazi facility was a half-baked operation. It was not a consulate. It was a 'facility' with an ambiguous purpose, at least as far as the unclassified world is concerned."
If it was not a consulate, then it was not sovereign United States territory. This fact has important legal consequences -- as was only just touched upon (at ~13:00, but pick up at ~10:00 for full context) by Newt Gingrich on Fox News in his appearance on Greta Van Susteren's Oct. 30 show (caution: auto-play).
One of these consequences may be that the United States had no "legal" authority under international law unilaterally to violate sovereign Libyan airspace by sending in a military force or by engaging attackers with U.S. aircraft, irrespective of the fact that U.S. citizens, including an ambassador, were the ones being attacked.
The purpose of this "facility" and its associated "safe-house" is increasingly becoming less ambiguous, as J.D. Longstreet points out:
That CIA "safe-house" has troubled me from the very beginning. ... What was the CIA doing there? There was no embassy in Benghazi. In fact, the building attacked was not even a consulate. If anything, it was a "mission" ... this was NOT an embassy.
It no longer reasonably can be denied that what was going on in Benghazi was "Fast and Furious in the Maghreb" being run by Ambassador Stevens, et al. at the direction of "fill in the blank."
He continues:
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The Responsibility to Protect:
challenges & opportunities in light of the Libyan intervention
Did we have legal authority to fly into Pakistan and nab OBL?
The notion that calling a site a consulate or a facility makes some legal difference and that difference means standing and watching from the property line is just nuts.
Just plain nuts.
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All about :
Be sure and listen to the final seconds....
Guess I need to put the Link here again:
What is the current status of those two facilities? Do we own them, or are they unprotected?
Well,....I know about that....I can’t always remember where I laid my glasses down 10 minutes ago.
Well....the survivors were evacuated....who would be watching it?
I guess that makes it allright to go in and murder the Ambassador.
Whats all the fuss about?
YES, disgusting and outrageous.
Thank you very much, sweet Ernest!
Except that, since there is no "international sovereign" and no "international lawgiver"(legislature), there is no such thing as international "law".
THIS is the only law we need:
....Now I do like that...that is so nice of you.
The fact that it wasn't a consulate really doesn't change anything for me. You put your men in there, doesn't matter if they had diplomatic "cover" or not. If AQ sends a hundred guys to attack your guys, you have to save them. Forget legalities and optics.
I thought that was American soil. Do we let thugs just kick us off our property these days? Why haven’t we sent in the tanks to secure these places?
Let alone 20 or more. :) I almost forgot a few minutes before ten to haul the 5 liter box wine of Chianti out of the refrigerator. Horrors. Total horror story.
That historically is the Soverign opinion....but the Globalist crowd is spinning a new scheme...see my post #21 above regarding R2P—Responsibility to Protect.
CIA does stuff off of American soil.
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