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A Mormon centrist and a Marxist radical are vying for the evangelical vote.
1 posted on 10/29/2012 7:41:14 PM PDT by billflax
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Vote for the guy who’s trying to become a god rather than the guy who thinks he already is god. The first guy will work harder.


28 posted on 10/29/2012 9:16:55 PM PDT by bramps
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I’ll choose Romney’s personal character and moral standards any day over those of LBJ or JFK or WJClinton. Recent female college grads working in Romney’s White House need not fear being made sexual playthings.


29 posted on 10/29/2012 9:31:46 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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The real problem is that it’s questionable if Romney has any intent of governing as a conservative. We conservatives have been like Charlie Brown to the RINO Lucy, suckering us into trusting them one more time. So here we go again.

Obama is pure evil, but I have no faith that Romney will do what he actually promises. If he governs as a RINO, we will have a Democrat president elected in 2016. We shall see.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 9:34:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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From the article: Culturally, Mormons make for great neighbors and business partners. Many behave better than most Christians, but faith is more than mere morals. When Latter-day Saints talk of Christ they conceive of a created being.

So, Forbes is out there with sub "behavior" machine measuring "many...Mormons" vs. "most...Christians" around the world and are able to input ALL moral/immoral based behavior and conclude this ridiculous assertion with ANY degree of accuracy?

And even if -- somehow -- this could be ascertained as so -- this ridiculous statement of: Many behave better than most Christians...Well, many Pharisees' behavior exceeded that of the early Christians...

How do we know that? Well, Jesus told us so...at least once...

"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Jesus, Matthew 5:20)

But...he clearly preached vs. the open hypocrisy of the legalistic Pharisees...and Mormons are perhaps the greatest legalists of our day today...

Matthew 23:27: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean."

And earlier in that same chapter: 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

And...
* Matt. 15:9: But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
* Matt. 16:12: ...guard against the yeast...against the TEACHING of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
* Luke 11:52: ... you have taken away the key to knowledge.
* John 8:44,47: You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies…The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.

32 posted on 10/29/2012 9:35:43 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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From the article: ...faith is more than mere morals. When Latter-day Saints talk of Christ they conceive of a created being.

Yup. Key point here...

Allow me to give an example from Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie: "And virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal UNCREATED, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pg.269).

For the Mormon Jesus to be deemed as "uncreated" is nonsensical to them...hence, they label Jesus as a mere creature -- vs. THE CREATOR of all things and all beings (Colossians 1:15-17).

33 posted on 10/29/2012 9:38:08 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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Properly understood, Marxism reflects a complete rejection of Christianity.

Sorry, Mr. Flax, you are glossing over the real evil of Communism and Marxism. They deny the very existence of God, substitute the State for God, destroy organized religion and churches, and obliterate the worth of the individual and subsume it to the collective. These "isms" are pure evil.

35 posted on 10/29/2012 9:54:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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When you are on an airplane that’s going down fast, you simply want someone who is able to fly the plane to safety, you don’t really care what religion the pilot has. The main concern is, can this person fly the airplane and get you safely home.

Yes, the theology of Mormonism is not orthodox Christianity, but I haven’t seen Romney pushing his faith on the people of Massachusetts, nor do I think he will with the United States as President.

Does he believe in our American values as expressed in the Declaration of Indpendence and does he intend to adhere to the Constitution of the United States? I believe he does and if so, then I have no problem with voting for him as president. I know that the alternative is opposite of our values and Constitution, so for me it’s a no-brainer.


38 posted on 10/29/2012 10:00:32 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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What to do, what to do. A gay communist muslim against a mormon. I can’t make up my mind.

Oh fiddle. I’ll go for the guy who doesn’t hate America.


48 posted on 10/29/2012 10:45:49 PM PDT by marron
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I, as a Catholic Christian, will take the “cult” over Communism.


54 posted on 10/29/2012 11:08:51 PM PDT by Lucky Scrunchy (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/watch/409925)
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..God used some pagan kings in the past to help his people Israel

Daniel and others functioned well while holding onto their faith in the true God without adopting the many gods of Babylon and Persia

Evangelicals, Protestants, and Roman Catholics can take up their great theological differences with the LDS on November 7...

62 posted on 10/30/2012 7:05:59 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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A Mormon centrist...

(Yeah, I'm sure if you were able to ask those aborted that Romney has favored to be "up" for abortion, they'd say, "Yeah, he's a 'centrist' toward keeping my body intact alright.")

(Ya know, only 15-20% of Lds are temple Lds...which means the huge majority of Mormons don't expect godhood status...but Mitt's a temple Mormon...I just didn't realize -- until you informed us here -- that had McCain or Sarah Palin announced in 2008 that they were "gods in embryo," that would have been perceived all across America as "centrist" and wouldn't have 'shied away' a single vote)...

65 posted on 10/30/2012 10:15:30 AM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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From the article: Properly understood, Marxism reflects a complete rejection of Christianity. So do Democrats apparently.

Well, Bill, while Socialism/Marxism is counter Christianity, so is classical Mormonism...so your ignorance slip is showing.

How is classical Mormonism a "complete rejection of Christianity?"

Just go to the Lds "scriptures"...Pearl of Great Price...

In there, you'll find the section "Joseph Smith - History" -- which includes the supposed founding vision of Joseph Smith.

Look at verses 18-20...In those very verses...the Mormon gods tell Smith that...

* 100% of Christian sect creeds are an "abomination" to them...("all" means ALL!)
* 100% of Christian sect professing believers are "corrupt" ("all" means ALL!)

Elsewhere, Mormonism has taught that ALL Christian sects are "apostate" -- as in 100% of them -- and that Mormonism alone is the "restoration."

That is called, Bill, a "scorched earth" religious posture...where Smith attempted to build a gigantic spiritual graveyard for worldwide Christianity...and toss it in ... as he declared it dead...

His very first "revelation" in Doctrine & Covenants (1:30) declares the Mormon church to be "the only true and living church on the face of the earth"...meaning EVERY Christian church is false and dead.

That, Bill, is a "complete rejection of Christianity..."

And the compromisers on this site are "silly" not to take classical Mormonism at face value...for these are Lds "scriptures"...not just some sermonic opinionated reference from a Mormon tabernacle...

71 posted on 10/30/2012 11:41:15 AM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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I’m amazed that anyone can call himself a Christian and vote Democrat.


91 posted on 10/30/2012 5:21:34 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (If a man will not work, then neither shall he eat.)
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God doesn’t care about who wins this election. He Himself chooses leaders. We are fooling ourselves into thinking our vote even really matters. See the scripture...

“Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.”

~1 Peter 2:13-14

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.”

~1 Peter 2:18

“Then Jesus said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him”

~Mark 12:17

...basically it doesn’t matter who God puts into power. We need to tolerate, pray for and obey our leaders as an act of obedience to God. Everyone on this forum would be smart to remember that!


99 posted on 10/31/2012 1:10:04 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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