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To: DoughtyOne
The Hispanics in California have family values. They value jobs. They want good education. Many are devout Christians

They want the Jefe (Caudillo) to take the money from the gringos and give it to them.

A charming little family with their tattoos, spitting, and chattering in Spanish was next to me on the beach this morning. The venom in their eyes for me and my kid was obvious.

The only "family values" they have ever demonstrated is "more of us, fewer of them".

Don't BS yourself. And by the way, can you give me a good answer why California should be majority Mexican?

From 1846 to 2010, that wasn't true. How is it possible that a foreign populace can simply lay claim to an American state, and we all cower in fear and acquiesce to it?

15 posted on 10/28/2012 3:59:27 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator; DoughtyOne

You both have valid points, but there is no single “Hispanic” population. Here in NJ we have several different groups of them, with their own traits & priorities. The more established ones are assimilated, and vote along the same lines as the larger American population; younger newcomers are here for the safety net, and breed to reap the benefits (it is amazing how many of the younger women are pregnant). Many of them are no longer Catholic, and attend storefront evangelical churches (if they attend any at all).

As for why California is Mexican today, it is probably because it was Mexican in 1845; when the US took territory from Mexico it didn’t have the ethnic cleansing that Britain had in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick when they won the war for Canada. The US probably continues to absorb Hispanic immigrants because in a gobal economy we are a nation of merely 300 million, competing with two Asian powers of over a billion people each; here in the northeast whole neighborhoods would be ghost towns if they didn’t let illegals fill them.


29 posted on 10/29/2012 4:22:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Regulator
 The Hispanics in California have family values. They value jobs. They want good education. Many are devout Christians

They want the Jefe (Caudillo) to take the money from the gringos and give it to them.  Some do.  Some don't.  What you forget is that there are plenty of Hispanics whose families have been here for genearations, who have worked hard to own their own homes and small/large businesses.  They too are negatively impacted by high crime and the burden of millions of moochers on our society.

A charming little family with their tattoos, spitting, and chattering in Spanish was next to me on the beach this morning. The venom in their eyes for me and my kid was obvious.  Yes, you're going to run into people like that.  But then what has our government done to: 1: Stop the flooding of our nation with foreign nationals? 2: Stop gang crime dead in it's tracks?

We should very seldom have to run into folks like that.  The fact that we do, is glaring proof that our government has abandoned us here.

The only "family values" they have ever demonstrated is "more of us, fewer of them".  Okay, once again, you are assuming that all Hispanics favor illegal immigration.  They don't.

Don't BS yourself. And by the way, can you give me a good answer why California should be majority Mexican?  Evidently you haven't seen one post (comment) of mine on the subject over the last 26 years.

From 1846 to 2010, that wasn't true. How is it possible that a foreign populace can simply lay claim to an American state, and we all cower in fear and acquiesce to it? 
Excellent question.  I've been asking the same thing for more than a quarter of a century.  Now that we have 20 - 35 million illegal immigrants here, good luck.  I recommend the following.

1. Stop all immigration dead in it's tracks for twenty to thirty years.  Make few exceptions as needed based on value of the individual to our society.
2. Place troops on our border with Mexico, and bullets in their weapons.
3. End all employment to illegal immigrants, on penalty of ten year prison sentences and the confiscation, shuttering of businesses.
4. If you have been here long enough to purchase property, you will be given twelve months to unload it.  Then go back to the nation of your origin, and take your children with you.

We didn't create this mess.  The illegal immigrant did.

Our government certainly contributed to it.  Hell, they subsidized it.


34 posted on 10/29/2012 9:55:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (You know, if Obama wins he's going to inherit a terrible situation.)
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