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To: DoughtyOne; wardaddy

You want to know why I was a tad upset at your post?

“So what this guy risks by calling us racists, is losing the majority of voters who are White, and don’t consider themselves to be racists.

Like the Old Confederacy? Well then I guess he’s forgot one thing. The Dixie South at the time of the most Klu Klux Klan activity and the highest levels of racism, was heavily Democrat.

Do the names George Wallace, Orvil Faubus, and U. S. Senator Byrd(D) ring any bells?

Two had to be forced at the end of a National Guard bayonet to allow black children into southern public schools. The third was a Klu Klux Klan organizer and Klan leader.

Don’t accuse me of looking like the old Confederacy, unless you want me to explain what the old Confederacy and Dixie Democrats looked like.”

That’s offensive to any of us who lived it, experienced it, and who know one heck of a lot more about it than you do.


78 posted on 10/31/2012 11:55:04 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I can see November from my house! dc2k circa 2010 Once again...with feeling!)
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To: dixiechick2000

All you’ve done so far is hiss and moan.

Where was I wrong?

Oh, that’s right, I wasn’t.

Except for the misunderstanding regarding Nixon taking the South and Carter’s win four years later, you haven’t taken the time to refute one thing I said.

BTW: You don’t have any clue whatsoever where I was in those days.


79 posted on 11/01/2012 12:03:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: dixiechick2000
From the lead article this thread.

In a discussion of the "racial gap" in this year's election,
Sullivan declared all southerners to be racists and are sliding back into the civil war. "If Virginia and Florida go back to the Republicans, it's the Confederacy, entirely. You put the map of the civil war over this electoral map you got the civil war," he said.


I'm not sure you understand the premise I was objecting to in Sullivan's comments here.

His premise is that because the South is Republican, it's sliding back into the civil war.  And if Virginia and Florida go back to the Republicans, it's the Confederacy all over again?

I doubt rather stridently that you agree with that.  I don't.

There are facets of the Confederacy and the Civil War that do not comform with this model at all.

That's what I was addressing.  There is a mem these days that Republicans are the big racists.  That's not true.  I object to the statement, and I will try to set the record straight when I get the opportunity.

If this offends you, I honestly don't know why.

Do you want the idea that Republicans are racists reinforced, and to stand without objection?

Do you want the idea that the Republicans were the movers and shakers of the Confederacy and Southern Racism to stand without objection?

Why would it offend you for me to mention Wallace, Faubus, and Senator Byrd's actions?  All three of these men have participated in some rather disgusting behaviors.  And yet, Sullivan tries to rewrite history and blame racism on Republicans.

I'm not buying into that.  I am actually shocked to know you took offense to my comments objecting to this jackass and his premise.

If I worded some of this indelicately, and it offends you, then explain what your problem with it is, and quit glossing over the parts that bother you to make generalizations.

If you have valid points to make, I'd like to hear them.  Perhaps I do have something to learn here, but that's certainly not going to happen if you can't be specific.

81 posted on 11/01/2012 12:30:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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