Posted on 10/25/2012 10:57:02 AM PDT by Daffynition
HARTFORD — Connecticut state police have criminals to thank for footing the $280,000 bill for replacing their 16-year-old pistols with new, more powerful handguns.
The entire cost of the 1,250 new .45-caliber Sig Sauer P220 pistols is being paid for with money and other assets seized during federal and state investigations of drug dealers and other criminals, under the federal asset forfeiture program, state police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said.
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Agreed.
It’s hard to screw up with a SIG and a decocking lever.
Too many people make the mistake of trying to drop the hammer on a 1911.
I’m not a .45 guy, but check out the Springfield XDS.
It’s a single-stack .45 compact that approximates a Colt Commander and uses the XD-series striker system.
Fairfax, Va did a study of human wounds of .40 vs .45. The .45 did do more damage.
Have you considered the variety of 1911 based compact carry .45 pistols from Kimber, Springfield or Sig Sauer? I personally prefer the Sig Ultra, it conceals better than my Glock 26, much more comfortable and yes, that does lend to always carrying.
I carried a combat commander conceiled for about 6 years. It is actually not too bad to hide, it is thinner than some of the 9mm pistols that people are using for CC now. It fit into a small inside the belt holster.
I had a friend that had a concealed 12 gauge pump shotgun, full stock, short barrel.
Roger that. Biggest reason I got rid of my 1911 after 4 years. It was a good shooter but...
I just love my P220, I have the short barrel version and it's nice to be able to be DA/SA with a cocking lever.
...and automobiles, cash, real estate.
Without trial, conviction, or even indictment. Poof! Gone.
This is blasphemy. The M1911 killed more krauts, nips, norks,chinks and gooks than any other hand gun around. If it was good enough for my old man(Korea) it is good enough for the police.
The P220 was designed and built originally as 9mm pistol. That was Sig's primary platform in the 1970s, and they modified the pistol to shoot .38 Super and .45acp. Although the grip portion of the P220 .38 and .45 were changed to accomidate the larger calibers, the slide kept the original 9mm external dimensions in order to share a common holster and parts.
By keeping the same external dimensions, the slide lacked the space in order to increase its mass to better absorb recoil. Instead, Sig just added a stronger recoil spring which will absorb more recoil, but it also slams the slide forward with more force. So, takedown levers are a common thing to break on P220s, in addition to cracked slides and firing pin position pins on the stamped slide models. The other issues are the extractor which tends to wear out quickly, and less than optimal feeding characteristics. If you have ever cycled your P220 by hand, you will notice that its feeding characteristics are poor in comparison to 9mm, .40, or .357sig models. The feed ramp is steep, and the magazine is positioned too low in the grip. This results is cartridges stripping off the magazine and sliding up the ramp at too steep of an angle resulting in malfunction, or the cartridge will simply pop loose of the magazine feed lips resulting in the cartridge fliping out of alignment of the chamber or just free hanging while it waits for the slide to slam home on it. In the case of the free hang, if your P220 is not positioned straight up and down then the cartridge will literally role/fall out of alignment with the chamber. Since cartridges do not smoothly slide up the breech face and into the extractor claw on the P220, a cartridge must push the extractor aside in order to get the claw to grip. This will wear out the extractor faster, or break it under the right conditions.
Broken parts cannot be helped. You just replace them before they break on you. The other malfunctions can be helped by replacing springs and extractors on a regular basis. Usually, that schedule is at around the 3000rd mark or every 2yrs of regular use on the .45acp P220. The manufacturer says 5000rds or every 3yrs of regular use, but at least for my agency we would start experiencing the above problems before that recommended service schedule. Given all the available .45acp pistols on the market, I would not choose a P220 for service use. It is a nice collectors gun, but there are better options now days. We have run 9mm, .40S&W, and .45acp Sigs since the early 1990s. Without any doubt, the P220 .45acp models are our most problematic. A growing trend with LE agencies that decide to adopt .45acp is that they end up training less, and thus shooting less. With less ammo capacity in the pistol, and more expensive ammunition, they naturally slow down their training schedule. This is how you get some departments that will say they have no problems with their P220s, and others that say they are garbage(mostly SWAT and other high volume shooters).
Sorry, I don’t know. I’ll try to find out.
I thought my inclusion of the shameful indictment of the staties I included would explain where I stand better than a /sarc tag.
“...How can you possibly rectify your view with a small government conservative view of what government is?...”
Most conservatives are NOT in favor of smaller government, they are perfectly happy with the ever increasing military/police state except when it personally inconveniences them or when the “wrong” party is in power.
I saw that. I was responding to all the bed wetters drooling over tech specs of the weapon in question. You and I have tag teamed the statist boot lickers in the past. Should not have addressed it to you except you were the poster.
I’m cool. Sending you a FReepmail.
I would never recommend getting rid of the 1911 pistol, I recommend owning both!
Roger that, but there was a little problem with the boss..... ;)
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