[cripplecreek]

The sad thing is that 6 months ago 95% of FReepers would have backed up what I said.

We’ve got a global financial calamity and it doesn’t have anything to do with Romney and not as much to do with Obama as some would like to believe.

Our financial mess goes back decades and I’m sick of hearing these excited little voices calling for a return to the glory of 2008. That’s a damn low bar and Americans should demand more. They should be demanding a return to the economic glory of the 1950s at least.

Sure Romney will be superior to Obama but I’m not falling into the trap of thinking its the best we can do.

[Timber Rattler]

The sad thing is that 6 months ago 95% of FReepers would have backed up what I said.

Yup.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”The sad thing is that 6 months ago 95% of FReepers would have backed up what I said.
We’ve got a global financial calamity and it doesn’t have anything to do with Romney and not as much to do with Obama as some would like to believe.
Our financial mess goes back decades and I’m sick of hearing these excited little voices calling for a return to the glory of 2008. That’s a damn low bar and Americans should demand more. They should be demanding a return to the economic glory of the 1950s at least.
Sure Romney will be superior to Obama but I’m not falling into the trap of thinking its the best we can do.”

You make some great points there, esp about ‘2008 glory days’. In fact if the 2005 glory days were REALLY so great then the economy wouldn't have fell off a cliff 2007 to 2008.

I think the 1950s economy is not the least bit realizable now. In the 1950s the economy was so strong that it could support some income tax rates of 90%.

They didn't have anything like this globalized economy back then, the Far East was a third world and Europe was decimated by war. The US was able to move from a total war economy to a manufacturing economy with virtually NO competition. The Truman Doctrine made Western Europe welfare clients of the US because of those things, and we had the money to do it.

I appreciate your comment. I appreciate others who don't drink the Koolaid.

[henkster]

We will never see a return to the economy of ther 1950s. Unless of course you reduce all of the other economies to rubble, which was what the rest of the world was recovering from back then.

[RegulatorCountry]

I've spoken out against Romney as strenuously as anyone here leading up to the convention. I detest the games that were played with various primaries and with convention delegates themselves. It does not bode well, and Romney will at best be merely more circumspect about creeping progressivism, a little less quick with the trigger.

But, there is not a large difference between the two, Romney and Obama, other than this: for all his faults and weaknesses from a social and even fiscal conservative point of view, he does not hate this country. I've seen ample evidence that Obama does.

In the rough times that are just as surely ahead if Romney wins as they are if Obama does, I'd rather have the middling good-government type with at least some degree of empathy for and identification with Americans, than the barely concealed radical who wants to continue to damage the economy and the institutions of the United States in an attempt at remolding it.

There is no other candidate remotely positioned to unseat Obama. Obama has got to go. Beyond that, I have no delusions as to just what we'd be getting.

We'd be getting a slight improvement who would be adverse to rocking the boat too much, the very sort of politician that got us to this place to begin with. He'll cause problems too, just on a less breathtaking scale and on a less breakneck schedule.

He buys a little time and will have less animosity towards us. That's all we have this election cycle.

Sad, but it's so. I’ve chosen to try to work with it. Yet again. Getting tiresome, I'll admit.

[roamer_1]

The sad thing is that 6 months ago 95% of FReepers would have backed up what I said.

You and I will get our "See, I told you so..." moment - Even though by then it will be far too late, and it will be a bitter thing... But it is coming, sure as sunrise in the morning and darkness at night.

[VideoDoctor]

I’m not falling into the trap of thinking its the best we can do.

I agree. But it is a FIRST and simple step AWAY from jumping into the precipice.