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US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum (While We're elect'in...)
The Hill ^ | October 13, 2012 | Brendan Sasso

Posted on 10/13/2012 11:40:06 AM PDT by yoe

U.S. Ambassador Terry Kramer warned on Friday that a proposal to give a United Nations agency more control over the Internet is gaining momentum in other countries.

Proposals to expand the U.N.'s International Telecommunications Union's (ITU) authority over the Internet could come up at a treaty conference in Dubai in December. European telecommunications companies are pushing a plan that would create new rules that would allow them to charge more to carry international traffic.

The proposal by the European Telecommunications Network Operators' Association could force websites like Google, Facebook and Netflix to pay fees to network operators around the world.

Kramer said the idea of an international Internet fee is "gaining more interest in the African states and also in the Arab states."

He said the United States delegation to the conference will have to redouble its efforts to convince other countries that the proposal would only stifle innovation and economic growth.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; alreadyposted; democrats; globaltaxes; internet; obama; searchisyourfriend; taxes; un; unitednations
This rogue organization wants your guns and in some areas wants your tax money and wants to educated your children. Our relationship with The Global Mob borders on our agreeing to become conjoined in their crimes. The United States Constitution protects our nation from this sort of blackmail. This rogue organization defies common sense and any sort of integrity. As an American I resent the heck out or the United Nations, a group who turns their back on women, children, and abuses people around the world, the consummate parasite.
1 posted on 10/13/2012 11:40:09 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

Obama wants the UN to control our Internet , tax us and for the UN to take away our guns.


2 posted on 10/13/2012 11:44:41 AM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: yoe

Obama wants the UN to control our Internet , tax us and for the UN to take away our guns.

That’s what International socialists like Obama want.

The UN and Obama must be stopped.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 11:45:48 AM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: yoe

Let’s just cut the Africans and Arabs out of the Internet then. Slap those hands reaching in to our pockets. We created it, it’s ours and we let others use it. The US should be the one charging the fees if anyone.


4 posted on 10/13/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by JMS
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To: yoe

Fees, taxes, restrictions, regulations, and controls are always popular or “gaining momentum” among communists, tyrants and power hungry lefties.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: Democrat_media
He's gonna keep pushing for more and more of his MARXISTS rule.

We all know the fate of MARXISTS. But, you go homey!

6 posted on 10/13/2012 11:53:08 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

The parasites of the world have created nothing useful or productive. Destroy all parasites!


7 posted on 10/13/2012 11:57:46 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: JMS

Very dangerous territory we are wading into here: (1) fees above and beyond what we pay for service already, (2) of course it will be monitored by government oversight and used as a spying mechanism and propaganda instrument, (3) it will be used to promote ideaologies, social stances, and religious or cult like messages to the public for the purpose of controlling their behaviours and quell social unrest. Once
consent is given to the government to do this, an incremental assault will begin to erode the rights to privacy, freedom of speech and rights to protest . In addition it will facilitate control of the people on a worldwide level and assist in the establishment of a new world order.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 11:59:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: yoe
The United States Constitution protects our nation from this sort of blackmail. This rogue organization defies common sense and any sort of integrity.

Ironically the term "rogue organization" aptly describes the federal government, in which the three branches recognize the Constitution only when convenient.

-- The executive actively violates such as the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 10th amendments (the War on Drugs [WOD] is all that's needed to both illustrate and prove that point, although it certainly isn't limited to the WOD).
-- The legislative now routinely passes contra-constitutional "laws" like Obamacare, but has done so for a long time (GCA/NFA anyone?).
-- The Judiciary however is particularly bad, because they wrap their pronouncements up in 'precedence' *spit* and truly warped "reasoning" [read troll-logic] to (a) show their position to be constitutional, and/or (b) justify current government practices. A good example is the Supreme Court decision Raich v. Gonzolas wherein they upheld the Federal Government's ability to regulate home-grown drugs with the following sort of reasoning: the WOD is predicated on the ability to regulate commerce, Wicard proves that privately grown substances impact interstate commerce, even though no commerce exists [because it is illegal under WOD laws] if it did the it would be commerce, therefore the government has the ability to regulate privately grown marijuana. (And there's the Kelo decision wherein they held that imaginary numbers [projections] are enough of a "public use" to satisfy the 5th Amendment... even if the suppositions of the projections are never met.)
Then there's Fast & Furious, which is Constitutionally Treason... yet nothing is going to come of it.

Therefore, it must be asked: what is the consequence of violating the Constitution?
Apparently nothing.

9 posted on 10/13/2012 12:03:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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This rogue organization wants your guns and in some areas wants your tax money and wants to educated your children.

Explain again the difference between established governments and shakedown/protection rackets, besides the fact that the mob bosses actually deliver and leave you alone?

/johnny

10 posted on 10/13/2012 12:08:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yoe

I want the UN to just go away.
Alternately, we bring up a tank batallion and level their building, so we can reclaim that prime real estate for AMERICANS.


11 posted on 10/13/2012 12:12:38 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: yoe
Our relationship with The Global Mob borders on our agreeing to become conjoined in their crimes. The United States Constitution protects our nation from this sort of blackmail.

The UN was created by Americans, in part, as a "get around" against that pesky Constitution.

12 posted on 10/13/2012 12:18:13 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: yoe


13 posted on 10/13/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: yoe

Obama has ALREADY given away partial control of the Internet to the U.N. with barely a word mentioned of it in the press. ICANN was the American run non-profit group that controls the Domain Name Servers that connect the whole Internet world-wide. The U.N. and the left constantly pressured Bush to allow International control of ICANN stating that it was unfair to the world that the U.S. had such significant control of a world resource. Of course Obama gave it to them.


“Proposals for international governance of the Internet have been particularly popular with authoritarian regimes and countries - particularly in the Middle East - where freedom is not a core value. The Bush administration time and again rebuffed these power-sharing proposals. However, the Obama administration, consistent with its view that the United States has too much influence in the world, has sought to give foreign countries their say.”

“In October 2009, the Obama administration concluded an agreement with ICANN that increased international input on Internet governance. ICANN now has a foreign advisory board representing 100 countries, and the Obama administration is pushing for them to have veto power over the introduction of new top-level domains to which they may object. “If foreign governments do not trust the Internet governance systems,” Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Lawrence Strickling explains, “they will threaten to balkanize the Domain Name System, which will jeopardize the worldwide reach of the Internet.” The notion at work here is that if the regimes that censor, bully and block the Internet simply have a place at the table, they will be more likely to behave.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/4/obama-to-the-internet-no-icann/


14 posted on 10/13/2012 12:33:29 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: yoe

This scheme appears to be newest version of the former carbon tax. It’s another way for the UN to gets its sticky paws on money. But, alas, that money gets siphoned off for the beaurocrats and never ends up for its intended purpose. Well, it sounds good, and everyone means well . . .so that is what is important . . .right?


15 posted on 10/13/2012 12:34:54 PM PDT by BAW (“If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”- Pres Obama)
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To: Chode
Always appropriate for the little tykes when dealing with government.

As they get older, they do need to be introduced to rope and lamp-posts.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/13/2012 12:55:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yoe

Well, as soon as the UN develops their OWN Internet, they
can do what they want with it!! This one was developed by
algore (insert laugh track) and doesn’t belong to the UN
nor do they have any domain over it.

To paraphrase Charlton Heston, “from my cold, dark keyboard”!!


17 posted on 10/13/2012 1:41:25 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: jsanders2001

I wasn’t clear, I meant charge fees to everyone else but Americans. They wan to use our invention, they should pay for it.


18 posted on 10/13/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by JMS
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To: yoe

>>”gaining more interest in the African states and also in the Arab states.”

This is the definition of chutzpah! The two most primitive areas on Earth want to charge us money when they access our internet—the one thing that could bring them into the 21st century.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 5:08:43 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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