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Pressure is on Biden after Obama's lackluster debate performance
Reuters ^ | Sun Oct 7, 2012 | John Whitesides

Posted on 10/07/2012 11:01:50 PM PDT by granada

(Reuters) - He has been stereotyped as the Obama administration's gaffe-prone sideshow.

But Vice President Joe Biden also is a veteran debater who was in the U.S. Senate for a quarter century and is perhaps the Democratic White House's most passionate defender of the working class.

Now, with his debate against Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan coming up on Thursday, Biden is under pressure to help President Barack Obama's campaign recapture the momentum it enjoyed before Obama was outmaneuvered by Republican rival Mitt Romney last week in the first of their three debates.

That debate trimmed Obama's lead in the polls and raised the stakes for the lone vice presidential debate, which also will be a national debut of sorts for Ryan, the Wisconsin congressman and budget specialist.

With the Romney-Ryan campaign energized, Democrats are in the surprising position of relying on Biden, a perpetual political wild card, to fire up their campaign. Democrats did get a boost in Friday's jobs report, which showed the nation's unemployment rate dipped below 8 percent last month for the first time since January 2009, the month Obama took office.

"This is not about changing minds. This is about changing the momentum," Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis said. "The vice president is going to have to be very aggressive in undercutting Republican arguments. He can't allow Ryan to control the debate the way Romney controlled his debate."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; media; pressure
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To: liberty or death; Jonty30

” It’s not B&B”

Not to put words in Jonty’s mouth, but I thought the “B&B” meant Barack and Biden.

“BJ. Clintons legacy”

Actually, Biden was in DC way before Clinton was a blip on anyone’s radar screen. I believe he’s been there since he was a mere lad, in 1972.

I’ve been married almost that long. And that’s a looong time! lol


21 posted on 10/08/2012 12:35:19 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (~~~RAGE ~~~ I haz it.)
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To: max americana
“But Vice President Joe Biden also is a veteran debater”

Yeah watever. Sarah kept winking at him during the 2008 debates and it completely unnerved him..

22 posted on 10/08/2012 12:40:07 AM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: cardinal4

So if Ryan keeps winking at him, I expect him to totally freak out.

:)


23 posted on 10/08/2012 12:57:36 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a mad man's face, his reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Salamander

All he really needs to do is keep bringing up the “we have buried you in the middle class in the last four years” (paraphrasing)..and THEN keep winking at him. He should also wear a large chain around his neck as “bling”, while sipping a 7-11 coffee while weraing a Home Depot button..


24 posted on 10/08/2012 1:05:39 AM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: dixiechick2000

They came to the White House after President BJ Clinton. You’re right Joe’s been around and for a long time, but BJ Clinton dumbed down the democrats so bad that even Joey the Dunce could be a VP.


25 posted on 10/08/2012 1:08:22 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: dubyajam

There is a Master Baiter fishing store in Florida.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 2:15:20 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: dubyajam

There is a Master Baiter fishing store in Florida.


27 posted on 10/08/2012 2:15:30 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: max americana
He is a veteran debater. Only not it the same sense this article implies. Biden has been in plenty of debates - in front of a home audience and state electorate that were on his side to begin with.

Essentially his debates were like the Roman Coliseum Christian 'Fights'....a Christian is put in an arena before thousands of blood thirsty Romans pitted against the Lion, represented by Biden....of course he is a veteran.

This time, Biden isn't on his home turf/arena - he's on the national stage. The only thing Ryan has to watch out for is to keep from looking like a bully roughing up a little Yellow School Bus Kid in a helmet.

28 posted on 10/08/2012 2:46:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: granada

Let Biden be Biden.


29 posted on 10/08/2012 2:46:19 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: granada

30 posted on 10/08/2012 3:04:35 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: cardinal4

Now that’s a weird mental image.

Ryan is kind of clean-cut boyish looking but he has crazy-intense eyes.

Maybe he’ll psych ol’ Joe out.

[truth be told, I worry about Joe’s aneurysm history]


31 posted on 10/08/2012 3:09:16 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a mad man's face, his reason tends to fly away.)
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To: TigerClaws

I remember the Biden-Palin debate- she eviscerated him. As for the other 2008 debates, Obama won the Townhall one, while the other two were draws. Intelligent people can destroy these two. I think Biden and Obama will be curled in a corner sucking their thumbs by the end of the debates.


32 posted on 10/08/2012 3:42:29 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: granada
The debate is going to be in Danville, Kentucky.

For Joe's sake, I hope the elevation in Danville is NOT a couple of feet above sea level or else the DNC will demand that a hole be cut in the stage and the ground below, for him and his podium to be lowered down into. Their thinking will be that it will make up for obama being at a high elevation in Denver.

What the hell??? It's only fair.

s/

33 posted on 10/08/2012 4:01:57 AM PDT by jmax (Full mag inserted, round in chamber, safety is off.)
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To: jmax

Then, again, if Danville is in a valley, he’ll probably ask for a 15 foot podium and an aluminum extension ladder, just to be contrary.


34 posted on 10/08/2012 4:19:13 AM PDT by jmax (Full mag inserted, round in chamber, safety is off.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I have it recorded and watched it again. If I were joe biden... I’d catch the flu or something.

LLS


35 posted on 10/08/2012 4:19:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: max americana

you mean master-bater


36 posted on 10/08/2012 4:22:20 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: granada

Do NOT underestimate Biden. He held his own and will continue to against Ryan. The pressure is on Ryan. No doubt.


37 posted on 10/08/2012 4:24:18 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: granada

Obama’s campaign recapture the momentum it enjoyed before Obama was outmaneuvered by Republican rival Mitt Romney last week in the first of their three debates

So barry was just “outmaneuvered” lol


38 posted on 10/08/2012 4:33:59 AM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: granada

39 posted on 10/08/2012 4:38:30 AM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: max americana

Biden “WAS” a great debater but I think early senility is catching up to him. Still Ryan will need to be careful as Biden will be capable of a few Rhetorical low blows that will stick and sting!


40 posted on 10/08/2012 4:55:46 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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