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To: Lurking Libertarian

No—that is what the Founders thought. That only God-Fearing people could hold office since our Constitution is one which has to acknowledge God-Given inalienable rights. To take an oath to such a document—they thought—required one to believe in a Higher Power—the Judeo-Christian God. Atheists were discriminated against—and rightly so—when it came to taking oaths for any office or judgeship.

Are YOU saying that the Founders classified ALL cults as legitimate “religions”. Wiccan???? Atheism?????? Satanism????? Snake worship???? Mormonism??? Hinduism, etc? They treated all “faiths” as a viable “religion”?

“Religions” which didn’t comply with our Constitution—which was “Right and Wrong” according to Judeo-Christian Ethics-—were not accepted as “Religions”.

Some were outright rejected and discriminated against with laws and immigration regulations.

Just note the Supreme Court-—which could be said of all the Founders and this was OVER a hundred years later-—BTW, 24 of the Founders actually founded seminaries and remember there were legally State established religions (only Christian) at the signing of our Constitution.

“Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon the teachings of the Redeemer of Mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent, our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.” U. S. Supreme Court 1892

You deny history and use Marxist revisionism to destroy the very meaning and intent of our Founding Documents. Remember Nietzsche and Marx and the “kill God”—group were haters of Christianity for a reason. Christianity produced a culture whose Ethics gave the world the idea that women had dignity and worth, as did children, and that slavery, homosexuality and pederasty are vile, evil behaviors and that universities and hospitals will do much good for people. Individuality was created because of Christianity.
Collectivism/socialism violates Individualism—in serious ways. We become
serfs under any such system without individual rights. Socialism should be unconstitutional in this country. But as Mark Levine states we are post-constitutional.

These God-killers came AFTER the Age of Reason. True, skepticism existed but outright Atheism was totally rejected in America. Tocqueville writes about the religiosity and he remarks at the Holy Bible being in every house hold—even in the back waters. (So quit trying to deny history-—too many sources document these facts. Also.....John Austin and Legal Positivism would have also been considered incompatible with American jurisprudence.....but it is taught now in all our Universities as how to make “Law” although it denies the fundamental meaning of what constitutes Just Law—Right Reason according to Nature. Marx throws out the nature of men and women to dehumanize them and destroy all family connections—all biology becomes meaningless—why they push perversion and dysfunction—to destroy all possibility of healthy long-term relationships necessary for emotionally healthy people.

When the godless want slaves-—they want ignorant masses and no dignity of man—so that they can control them and eliminate them (as history has proven with all atheist/pagan beliefs). To destroy Christian Ethics-—they must kill God. That is what you are witnessing-—the trying to eliminate God from the American Mind and to relegate Christianity as NOT a Founding First Principle in our Legal System. Without a Higher Power-—there is no Rule of God and NO freedom or Justice possible. It becomes Austin’s world, Might makes Right.


58 posted on 10/11/2012 12:35:56 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
Are YOU saying that the Founders classified ALL cults as legitimate “religions”. Wiccan???? Atheism?????? Satanism????? Snake worship???? Mormonism??? Hinduism, etc? They treated all “faiths” as a viable “religion”?

So you are saying that Mitt Romney is constitutionally ineligible to be President?

59 posted on 10/11/2012 12:49:00 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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