Posted on 10/06/2012 4:50:36 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
LOL! A priest told me that once at a parish dinner. I was on my third plate of fried oysters, turkey, country (stuffed) ham, and the trimmings...
I was getting pretty full and didn't argue..
You seem to have it in for "fat slobs", for whatever reason. What you may have missed, but I have noted is that sometimes the guy who can really put the food away is a little skinny guy.
If your business is so on the ropes you can't absorb the (should be) relatively small loss from a couple of people who can eat a lot at the buffet, you likely have more serious problems.
Maybe they should give Gordon Ramsey a call...
I don't get the bit about putting a limit on "All you can eat" and not being hammered for false advertising.
If it just said "Fill your plate with your choice of food for $X.XX", that would be okay (but some here would gripe when they did a really good job of stacking the food on).
Here, people work hard for a living, mostly, and with that and our winter climate, 3600+ calories a day just maintains body weight, it doesn't put fat on at all.
It may be different in a more urban setting, but here, if you advertise "All you can eat", you'd better be ready to get hit with some eaters. The other side is that you can charge accordingly, and make money.
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“Forget the Pre Marital Counseling, get to a Dietitian ASAP.”
You seemed to have missed the point. We were young, dumb and in love. He was a Dem, I was a Republican. He had no problem with being “entitled” to spend all afternoon at the all-you-can-eat buffet. My thinking was spending 45 minutes to an hour at best, then leaving a really good tip. If we’d discussed or discovered theses issues prior to marriage, it would have saved a huge amount of pain for us, our children and our extended families.
We went to the HoJos for their weekly fried clam special for months in a row before my 1 bad experience. Continued to go the HoJos occasionally, I haven’t had fried clams since.
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I loved HoJo’s clams as a kid, until the one experience. I’ve also never had fried clams since. Something about throwing up for hours....
“There was this “Best of” show about Las Vegas, and they listed the Sunday “Sterling Buffet Brunch” at Bally’s as the best buffet in Vegas.”
About two years ago, I had a very obnoxious person next to me on his cell phone at a sushi bar. He was talking about all the Las Vegas buffets, and hitting them seemed to be his recreational past time. I’m not stupid. I listened in to his recommendations. He thought “M” had the best buffet. I think The Bellagio was his second choice. Nothing like listening to a local. Maybe I’ll try Bally’s for Thanksgiving this year. “M” is a bit of a drive.
No, I have it in for people that can’t hold up they’re half of the social contract. This pair of people going out of their way to take advantage of a business just happen to be fat slobs, they could have been skinny bastards, they’d still be jerks that deserved to be kicked out.
It’s not about how well the business can absorb the problem, it’s about the problem. These guys not only eat a ton of food while keeping their bill as small as possible, they also empty entire bowls of product keeping it away from the other customers. They’re bad for business in two repulsive ways. The business made the only call they needed, kick the losers out.
You advertise all the rock or fill dirt you can haul away, and I'll be there with a payloader and a dump truck, if you have that much and I can use it.
A deal is a deal.
If you don't want to hold up your end, don't advertise, no matter what business you're in.
Otherwise, you're dealing with the public, and if you're in that business you'd best be ready for all they can dish out.
Well they take everybody out to the field in a wagon and let them loose. People find their pumpkin and CARRY it back.
I'm 5'-11, wear a 54" jacket. My buddy is MAYBE an inch taller than me, and makes me look SMALL. I'll wear xxlt or xxxl shirts, he puts a stretch on 5xl.
And trust me, it ain't all fat.
Occaisionally, I'll have somebody ask me if I ever played pro football. My buddy can move me around almost on a thought.
Back to the pumpkin farm. Everybody else is carrying 10-15 or 20# pumpkins, my buddy found one that weighed well over 100#, came back with it on his shoulder. The tractor driver kinda thought my buddy did the over kill, but it was "whatever you could carry". On the other hand, my buddy had 3 kids. He got 3 normal size pumpkins for each of them, and just got the one monster pumpkin for the entire family.
“I’ve only been to Vegas once. Would like to try it again, but next time I need to go with a group of people. I was there for about 24 hours by myself, and was very turned off by it.”
I live in Vegas. If one gets it’s mind out of it only being about gambling and casinos, we have some amazing entertainment, attractions, sight seeing and other venues here. I took my daughter to the Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay a few months ago. It was awesome, and I’ve been to a lot of zoos and aquariums around the world. We have some amazing art and culture here if you take the time to look for it. I had to kill time one day and did The Atomic Testing Museum. I could have easily spent a few hours more there. Wynn has an art collection I’ve yet to see. I still want to hit the auto museum, but decided to give a pass on the new mob museum. A recent guest was disappointed not to be able to go to Red Rock Canyon for a horse riding, sight seeing trip. My husband used to fly sight seeing tours to The Grand Canyon from here. We have a lot more than just gambling and casinos. I just wish Obozo would quit coming back to the city he told people they couldn’t take a trip to. If you look beyond the drinking and gambling in Las Vegas, you can find a pearl.
Before I went, I had checked out the Las Vegas advisor. Made it over to Ellis Island for a very good steak dinner for $6 IIRC.
I work in construction and have been intrigued by all the buildings in Vegas. I wanted to go and just check them all out. I didn't even make it to my hotel on the shuttle, before I was turned off by everything. Still, I walked aroud and checked out some of the buildings.
Once again, I think if I was with other people, I could have shared and absorbed and released the energy of the city.
I'd love to see some shows there. Celine Dion would be at the top of the list. I saw Danny Ganz right before he started in Vegas. He was phenominal. Unfortunately he passed away a few years ago.
“I’d love to see some shows there. Celine Dion would be at the top of the list. I saw Danny Ganz right before he started in Vegas. He was phenominal. Unfortunately he passed away a few years ago.”
The only people I’ve wanted to see were them and Wayne Newton. It’s so schizophrenic living here. My daughter goes to UNLV, started at 13, so I have to cross the Strip multiple times a week taking her to school. It’s like venturing into another world. She had a professor that was a published author. One of his short stories was about the MGM sculpture- hollow...a hollow town. But all things work together for good for those who love God. (Romans 8:28)
I’ve been on a few cruise ships. I am pretty easy to please.
The sit down dinners are usually very good and they will
get you whatever amount you want. The buffets are so-so
and the deserts are like in the GC, they look great but
have little taste. If you go on a cruise, I’d suggest you
take your first one for 3 or 4 days. The best thing about
cruise are the excursions to sightsee if you do not like
to gamble. It’s always more fun with friends on board.
I always went with 3 or more friends.
Regarding the rest of your Post, I agree. We used to expect people to have “manners”. In this day and age, manners mean nothing.
Now it's get what you can and screw the other guy. We have a President and a Political Party who thinks that way, so nothing surprises me any more.
Sorry you had such a bad situation to deal with. With Soetero in the White House, I'm finding out what Relatives and Friends really think life owes them and it ain't pretty.
“I was just joking around. Didn’t think it would get a response.”
No problem. I just wish someone would have b@#$% slapped me into recognizing who/what I was marrying. He was all smiles, flowers, chocolates, glad handing with family.... I was star struck and didn’t ask about politics.
Actually you DID sign a social contract, by not becoming a mountain man. When you decide to be a member of society, to benefit from what society has to offer like restaurants, you sign on to not be a scheming conniving greedy annoying rude jackass. If you can’t handle that, then don’t be shocked when people kick your out.
The restaurant did hold up their end. They let these fat jerks patronize the restaurant for 2 years. Then the decided enough was enough. Everybody reserves the right to refuse service.
You mean like the people who advertise something and then kick people out for doing just that?
Let's get something straight. Society doesn't offer restaurants. Restaurant owners or franchisees (business people) offer restaurants, so they can make money.
Let me repeat that--
The reason I go to a restaurant is to get something to eat. If it looks like adequate fare, reasonably well prepared, in surroundings which give me reason to believe I will not contract a disease from eating there, and the price is right, we strike a deal. Offer to sell me a 16 oz. prime rib with the trimmings and come back with a cheezeburger and we're going to have a problem.
You see, the only contract is when the person there accepts the offer of food for a price.
If the offer is "all you can eat", the semantics generally are accepted to mean all you wish to consume on the premises in a single sitting. Fair enough.
No cheating, no filling up a doggy bag at the buffet and eating for a week, just what you can consume. No binge and purge, keep it down.
All understood.
But when the offer is to feed me all I can eat, that limit should be decided by me, after all, it is all I can eat, not the average person, the average anorexic, nor am I under any obligation to help the restaurant owner profit--that is between them and their business model.
Not "society", it is a business deal, not a social contract.
I live in North Dakota, which is fairly far off the beaten path, loathe cities, and don't even like crowds. I conduct business with a handshake and have an impeccable reputation in that regard. Again, If you don't want to stick with the deal you offered, don't offer it.
If someone is being genuinely disruptive, excessively profane, etc., that is another issue to be dealt with, and cause for removal from the premises. Simply eating "too much"? No.
They didn’t kick them out for “doing just that” they kicked them out for being rude and lowering the value of the restaurant for other customers.
Hey you finally said something right. Yes, restaurants exist to make money. And when you have customers that not only eat more than they spend but ALSO engage in behavior which discourages other customers these guys are inhibiting your ability to make money. So out they go.
But then you go wrong. The generally accepted semantics of “all you can eat” include “within reason, and without inhibiting other patrons ability to do the same”. 5 bowls a visit really isn’t within reason, and regularly emptying serving trays before other patrons get a chance to sample from them inhibits other patrons.
No both you and the restaurant get to decide. Because, as you said, they exist to make money, and if leaving the decision all up to you costs them money we’re now going against the very reason the place exists.
It IS society, it IS a social contract. In a society we understand that businesses exist to make money and if our patronage costs them money they can decide they don’t want it anymore. That’s part of the social contract of living in a capitalist society, the knowledge that all these business deals are voluntary in BOTH directions.
They WERE being generally disruptive. Read the article. It wasn’t just about them eating too much, they also felt the need to race other patrons to new food and take it all before anybody else got some. They broke social contracts, both with the restaurant AND with other patrons. So now they’re banned, that’s how society deals with people that aren’t potty trained, we kick them out.
As for the treacly 'social contract' crap, keep it. We used to just be considerate of others and have manners.
Most of the weasels who push 'duty to society' are just trying to get their foot in the door to shaft someone.
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