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Are Women Headed to the Infantry?
Mother Jones ^ | Thu Oct. 4, 2012 | Erika Eichelberger

Posted on 10/05/2012 3:55:13 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9

It’s bad enough when a young man is killed, but when a young woman is killed in combat, the enemy kills our future. Make all women eligible for the draft.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 4:25:52 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: lacrew
I attended West Point from 1988-1992.

To echo and reinforce your remarks. I was teaching at West Point (DMI) to include running committees at Beast and at Buckner when women were first admitted. I can tell you that the standards were revised before the first woman raised her hand on the Plain based on extensive physical tests of female enlisted soldiers. Women (and their male classmates) did not see the same training that was in place before women were admitted. The standards were revised once again while I was there to adjust to performance metrics. I suspect that there have been changes since I left. I have a good friend who is currently the Comm, I haven't asked him about the current situation, it would put him in an uncomfortable position.

22 posted on 10/05/2012 4:29:19 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: presidio9

I lived next to a lady who was a Olympic Shotputter.
She could do it. Carrie Nation could hold her own in a bar (true she carried a hachet). Calamity Jane was fairly famous for being tough as nails. Ginger Rodgers did everything Fred Astaire did, backwards, in heels.

Keep the standards, and let who qualifies qualifies.

A bank was sued because they gave a test to pregnant women. They were not allowed to work if they couldn’t stand with their toes touching the wall. The court ruled that all employees had to take the test. They lost one pregnant clerk, and 3 vice presidents.


23 posted on 10/05/2012 4:32:44 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: presidio9

Why would they want to?


24 posted on 10/05/2012 4:35:07 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: lacrew

I’ve asked a couple dozen vets of Iraq and Afghanistan what they’re really doing in the field.

The first problem I see for “women in combat” is that the typical, average woman simply cannot hump 100lb loads. Period, thanks for playing.

It’s the same deal with me: I can’t hump 200lb loads.

When you get near to carrying your own body weight, you simply cannot do it for long.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 4:36:16 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: presidio9

My God......they want the women dead before they can get pregnant. The country club Democrats aren’t going to have their little princesses in the Infantry. A dead woman bears no children. They would have to include women in the draft. Where would you put all the inner city women? In the Infantry. This is just another attempt by the Democrat party to reduce the number of Blacks in our country.


26 posted on 10/05/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: centurion316

You are correct. while a few women can do it, that number is less than 5%.

As an old retired guy, nothing looks dumber than mixed gender PT - the women sweating, the guys trotting along.


27 posted on 10/05/2012 4:42:47 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: presidio9

Women In the Military Program (WIMP).


28 posted on 10/05/2012 4:47:25 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: presidio9

I served in the Marine Infantry in the 80’s and I can tell you it was full of a bunch a filthy mouthed, sexist, nasty, men with the minds of adolescent boys. A perfect bunch IMHO to kill people and break things. I could not imagine any women even being around us. With the exception of the Marine Corps Ball, most guys would rarely allow their wives or girlfriends anywhere near us.


29 posted on 10/05/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: donmeaker
Keep the standards, and let who qualifies qualifies.

See my comments #11 and #22. That's the great fallacy of this whole nonsense.

30 posted on 10/05/2012 4:49:06 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: presidio9

I left out homophobic.


31 posted on 10/05/2012 4:49:13 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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Women have fought and died in every American war,

One American service woman died as a result of enemy fire in Vietnam.

Lt. Sharon Lane was a nurse and was killed when a piece of shrapnel from a commando led mortar attack hit Ward 4 of the 312th Evacuation Hospital, Chu Lai.

32 posted on 10/05/2012 4:50:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: presidio9

Women in the infantry are great......in the movies.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 4:53:00 PM PDT by RedwM
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Liberal policies, always trying to fool Mother Nature, always failing.


34 posted on 10/05/2012 4:53:54 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: NVDave

and to be clear, lots of “men” today can’t carry 100 pounds for a long time, much less 200. i could do maybe 80 fairly comfortably. but i’d be wiped at end of the day.


35 posted on 10/05/2012 5:00:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: presidio9

Right.....

36 posted on 10/05/2012 5:07:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Good picture, except... This individual is an Air Force close air support specialist who jumped into Northern Iraq with the 173d Airborne Brigade in 2003. The point remains valid.


37 posted on 10/05/2012 5:10:33 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: mrsmel

“Liberal policies, always trying to fool Mother Nature, always failing.”

Agreed. I grew up during the feminist bra burning era. I was the daughter of parents educated at top colleges. It’s basic common sense. Sure, teach women like the Israelis do to defend the home front for survival, but don’t send them off to the front lines. Common sense- a commodity in short suppy.


38 posted on 10/05/2012 5:18:44 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: lacrew

As I’m sure you know, there’s a massive difference between training everyone to the Infantry standard versus assigning women to Infantry Platoons.


39 posted on 10/05/2012 5:20:56 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: presidio9

When you get shot you know that 120 pound gal next to you will be ready to throw you across her shoulders and dog trot you to the pick up zone.


40 posted on 10/05/2012 5:42:49 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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