Posted on 10/02/2012 6:38:59 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
God’s Law is universal and applicable to everyone. As God’s Word tells us we are all sinners and all need Christ, that means all have broken God’s laws, Jewish or not.
You can’t compartmentalize God’s Word this way. The dietary and ceremonial laws God gave to the Jews are not the eternal, universal unchanging, spiritually perfect laws of God as sumarized in the 10 commandments, for example. your statement says you put all/of that on the same plane, that it’s all only applicable to the jews. that is not right.
The whole bible is Gods Word and is applicable fully. And it has to be because those that are not yet saved, God’s Word says they are under the Law right now, they stand condemned and as law’breakers. If the Law didn’t still apply to people the OT wold be irrelevant and we could’t talk about sinners being sinners and trying to get them to repent.
“Aren’t you supposed to be torturing someone for heresy a la the Spanish Inquisition?”
I’m looking for you right now.
The laws in Leviticus 20 are not dietary or ceremonial laws, but how to deal with sinners, such as those who curse their mothers or fathers and those who commit adultery. In Leviticus 20, the punishment for such offenses is death.
If the OT laws are fully applicable to everyone, Jew and Gentile alike, then do you believe that someone who curses their father or mother and someone who commits adultery should be put to death without exception as it commands in Leviticus 20?
Or, do you believe that we should forgive 70 times 7 trespasses as Jesus commanded in Matthew 18:22?
The whole bible is Gods Word and is applicable fully. And it has to be because those that are not yet saved, Gods Word says they are under the Law right now
In Romans 10:4, Paul clearly states: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."
If what you say is so, then please explain what Paul means in Galatians 3 and Galatians 5. (Galatians 3:13 - "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree", Galtians 5:14 - "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.")
If the law of Christ in the NT does not supersede the OT, then the two are contradictory. You can't forgive a sinner 70 times 7 and put him to death for cursing his mother or father or for committing adultery.
If the laws of Leviticus were not meant to be superseded, then Jesus would not have interceded for Mary when the Pharisees wanted to stone her for adultery in John 8.
being under grace gives us the ability not to punish according to God’s unchnging, perfect laws.
your very scripture confirms that only that those who believe are not under the law. you ignore plenty of NT scripture by Paul that clearly states those who are not saved are currently dead in their sins and the law convicts them.
you can believe what you want, just be aware it’s not biblical. i don’t feel like we’ll go anywhere so I’ll just say see ya later.
This is what I've been saying. Once someone is saved, i.e.: becomes a Christian, they are no longer bound by OT law because they are now bound by NT law.
But, according to the OT, the laws handed down to Moses were intended only for the nation of Israel, known as God's chosen people.
If you can show in scripture where Mosaic laws were intended for all people, Jews and Gentiles alike, then I'd like to see it.
you can believe what you want, just be aware its not biblical. i dont feel like well go anywhere so Ill just say see ya later.
I'm always willing to see the other guy's viewpoint and to discuss it rationally. If I'm wrong, I'm always willing to admit it.
A writer, most notably of The Color Purple, of which I made it throuh the first chapter only....
Duke is off base here.
Those lefty scumbags he listed are “respected” only by other lefty scumbags and chattering class ignoramuses who simply don’t know any better.
By the way, that other eugenicist and hero of Hillary Clinton, Margaret Sanger, could have been on the list, too.
I’d disagree. Gandhi and Shaw are respected by most everyone (who knows their names), and most of the others are respected by segments of the population that include more then leftists. Remember that people like Walker are read in schools sometimes. Also remember that a lot of people in this country are completely fooled by the revisionist historians. There’s a lot of ignorance out there.
Only the ignorant...
I have been aware of the nature of all of those people and didn’t particularly respect any of them.
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