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1 posted on 10/01/2012 2:02:18 PM PDT by Cindy
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theunjustmedia.com/Islamic%20Perspectives/Aug12/Sometimes%20The%20Jihad%20Media%20Recede,%20But%20Never%20Die.htm

“Sometimes The Jihad Media Recede, But Never Die”   
Ramzan 26, 1433 A.H, Wednesday, August 15, 2012

SNIPPET: “The Jihad information media have an important role in Jihad itself.”

SNIPPET: “Many people doubt the jihad media, thinking that the jihad media have no influence on the enemy’s moves.”

SNIPPET: “The existence of i’lam (information media) and especially the jihadi i’lam can never stop until the Judgment Day. The position of the media becomes very important as a broadcasting and manhaj-raising tool in making the program of the da’i or jama’ah successful.”

SNIPPET: “I have emphasized what I am saying in the previous paragraph, i.e. the internet is not the only tool that we have in the arena of jihadi i’lam, even though it is the most quick and effective means. There are means other than the internet, though traditional it is able to meet the needs and bear good results while waiting for the subsequent displacement of many of the obstacles. If indeed obstacles are very disturbing, then we could go back using the internet as a tool that is easily operated.”

SNIPPET: “Author: As-Sheikh Abu Sa’ad Al-Amily may Allah forgive him Jumadil Ula 1433 Hijriyah

Translated and Submitted by a Mujahid”


2 posted on 10/01/2012 2:05:13 PM PDT by Cindy
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CURRENTLY:

Forum.iNTERNET-HAGANAH.com
http://forum.internet-haganah.com


Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps & Co.

The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address Allocations on a National Network
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?976

Quds Day in Brasil
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?967

Iran illegally imports gear for nuclear program....
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?965

Hezbollah in Latin America: Terrorism and Organized Crime
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?962

Cracks in the foundation of the Turquoise Palace
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?970


Old Age and Treachery

After Benghazi
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?968


Global Jihad

Swiss Charge 2 Brothers With Terror Propaganda
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?969

New jihadi forum - Shabakada Islaamiga Gurmad
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?964

MEMRI report on Twitter use by jihadi groups and organizations
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?972

Rioting youths ‘could be the next terrorists’
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?974


Red Team

China breaks into network of White House Military Office
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?977

Alleged Russian spies wanted EU and Nato secrets
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?975


Spanners and Works

Espionage Hackers Target ‘Watering Hole’ Sites
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?973

Scary Android Malware Story
http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?971


3 posted on 10/01/2012 2:08:03 PM PDT by Cindy
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September 2001 - September 2012
TRUTHUSA.com ^ | September 1, 2012 | n/a
Posted on September 1, 2012 1:56:13 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: “Looking away, not caring, or hoping for the best are not viable options in fighting terrorism (in general) and the global jihad (specifically). Terrorism must be fought head on 24/7 and preventing terrorism is far better than just reacting to one terror-related event after another.” -Cindy (July 1, 2011)

SNIPPET: “”You must understand that the internet is the primary communication tool/propaganda tool/recruiting tool/fund raising tool for the global jihad. Once you understand that; then you should not be surprised at all that the jihad is in the same country you reside in.” -Cindy (July 10, 2007)

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Jihadis Online: A Few Thoughts
Society For Internet Research ^ | JULY 5, 2011 | S.O.F.I.R.
Posted on July 24, 2012 3:24:56 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: “I. When considering the matter of jihadis online, remember that most of what we think we know is based on analyses of the comments made by an handful of vocal activists. The vast majority of jihadis online, be they on forums or social networking sites[i], say nothing. Skillful translations and insightful analyses by definition tell us little about this potentially lethal yet silent majority.”

(Excerpt) Read more at sofir.org ...

1 posted on July 24, 2012 3:25:07 AM PDT by Cindy

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“Google Removes 640 Videos from YouTube Promoting Terrorism”
TELEGRAPH.co.uk ^ | 7:11AM BST 18 Jun 2012 | n/a
Posted on June 18, 2012 11:32:24 PM PDT by Cindy

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155682/Al-Qaeda-posts-online-recruitment-adverts-offering-training-suicide-bombers-target-US-Israel-France.html

“Al-Qaeda posts online recruitment adverts offering training for suicide bombers to target the US, Israel and France”

SNIPPET:

“-Advertisements ask for volunteers to get in touch via e-mail with details about their own experience
-Posted on a variety of jihadist forums”

By JILL REILLY
PUBLISHED: 21:07 EST, 6 June 2012 | UPDATED: 21:08 EST, 6 June 2012

SNIPPET: “Adverts have appeared on several jihadist web forums, offering to recruit and train potential suicide bombers.

Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is offering training for suicide bombers to target the US, Israel and France.

The advertisements ask for volunteers to get in touch via e-mail with details about their own experience and proposed targets, and were posted on a variety of jihadist forums, including Al-Fidaa, Shmoukh al-Islam and Honein.”

2 posted on June 18, 2012 11:35:12 PM PDT by Cindy

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Al-Qaida’s online forums go dark
UPI ^ | Published: April 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM | n/a
Posted on April 2, 2012 4:31:33 PM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: “WASHINGTON, April 2 (UPI) — A blackout of al-Qaida’s main Web sites is in its 11th day, and officials think the forums may have been brought down in a cyberattack.

While no one has claimed credit for disabling the sites...”

SNIPPET: “The loss of information typically confuses and frustrates the readers of the Web sites.

“It leaves the rank-and-file to guess which messages and which messengers are genuine al-Qaida, and provides undercover operators with new opportunities to disrupt the movement,” said A. Aaron Weisburd, senior fellow at the Homeland Security Policy Institute.”

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...

1 posted on April 2, 2012 4:31:42 PM PDT by Cindy

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“Senate Hs Committee Report Finds Online Jihadist ‘Activity’ Leads To Violent Islamist Extremism”

HSTODAY.US - HOMELAND SECURITY TODAY ^ | 02/28/2012 ( 9:12am) | by Anthony Kimery

Posted on March 4, 2012 6:40:42 PM PST by Cindy

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“Internet is a powerful catalyst for jihad: Dutch security service”
DUTCH NEWS.nl ^ | February 14, 2012 | n/a
Posted on February 16, 2012 12:31:58 AM PST by Cindy

SNIPPET: “The internet has become a powerful catalyst for international violent jihad, according to a new report from the Dutch security service AIVD.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dutchnews.nl ...

1 posted on February 16, 2012 12:32:05 AM PST by Cindy

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ADDING links to post no. 1:

https://www.aivd.nl/english/publications-press/@2874/online-jihadism/

https://www.aivd.nl/english/publications-press/@2873/jihadism-web/

2 posted on February 16, 2012 12:33:04 AM PST by Cindy
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“Jihadism in 2012: A Persistent, Low-Level Threat”
STRATFOR.com - Analysis ^ | January 16, 2012, 1334 GMT | n/a
Posted on January 23, 2012 2:13:04 PM PST by Cindy

SNIPPET: “While these various elements of the jihadist network are distinct, the Internet brings them together, especially at the grassroots level. Videos, websites and online magazines indoctrinate aspiring militants in the jihadist ideology and provide a forum for like-minded individuals and groups.”
1 posted on January 23, 2012 2:13:11 PM PST by Cindy

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The Jihad Will Be YouTubed
FOREIGN POLICY - The AFPAK Channel ^ | December 15, 2011 | by Raffaello Pantucci
Posted on January 1, 2012 3:26:29 PM PST by Cindy

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Subcommittee Hearing: Jihadist Use of Social Media...
Homeland.House.gov - COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY - Chairman Peter T. King ^ | December 2011 | n/a
Posted on December 5, 2011 5:27:07 PM PST by Cindy

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homeland.house.gov/hearing/subcommittee-hearing-jihadist-use-social-media-how-prevent-terrorism-and-preserve-innovation

Subcommittee Hearing: Jihadist Use of Social Media - How to Prevent Terrorism and Preserve Innovation

Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence | 311 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 | Dec 6, 2011 2:00pm

On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 the Committee on Homeland Security’s Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence will hold a hearing entitled “Jihadist Use of Social Media - How to Prevent Terrorism and Preserve Innovation.” The Committee will meet at 2:00 p.m. in 311 Cannon House Office Building.

Witnesses Mr. Evan F. Kohlmann Flashpoint Global Partners

Mr. William McCants Analyst Analyst for the Center for Naval Analyses

Mr. Andrew Aaron Weisburd Director Society for Internet Research

Mr. Brian Michael Jenkins Senior Advisor to the RAND President RAND Corporation

1 posted on December 5, 2011 5:27:22 PM PST by Cindy
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“Social Networks & The Online Jihad”
World Threats.com ^ | October 26, 2011 | Posted by Candice Lanier
Posted on October 31, 2011 1:38:14 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: “In July, the British government warned that Al Qaeda’s exploitation of social networking websites is on the rise.”

SNIPPET: “The massive and multifarious network of websites and social media has presented a challenge to authorities in trying to combat it. Additionally, civil liberty concerns have conflicted with government efforts to spy on communications.

Reducing terrorist activity on social media sites has been particularly difficult because users have adopted new forms of communication to conform with the new formats. Many Arabic speakers on Facebook, Twitter, MySpace and other sites use Arabizi, a form of colloquial Arabic written in the Latin alphabet and numbers. This allows the use of a standard English-language keyboard for typing messages. There exists, however, no standard version of Arabizi. It varies from country to country, even among groups within countries and is affected by differences in dialect.”

(Excerpt) Read more at worldthreats.com ...

1 posted on October 31, 2011 1:38:15 AM PDT by Cindy
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Whither the jihadi forums?
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | August 1, 2011 | n/a
Posted on August 1, 2011 1:10:28 PM PDT by Cindy

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Top Arabic Jihadi forums, 05 June 2011
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | June 4, 2011 | n/a
Posted on June 4, 2011 4:30:34 PM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: “Note: PWP stands for PassWord-Protected, meaning that a login is required to view - let alone participate in - discussions. Since some in the audience don’t understand the significance of this, allow me to spell it out: if only members can read the forum, then anyone observed reading the forum is a member. They have zero deniability (they couldn’t have accidentally “wandered into” the site), and they had to make the effort to join (an expression of intent).

While the goal here is to present a range of sites, the fact is that the jihadis themselves have largely coalesced at Shmukh and Ansar Arabic.”

(Excerpt) Read more at internet-haganah.com ...

1 posted on June 4, 2011 4:30:37 PM PDT by Cindy
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“Top jihadi forum list updated”
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | April 3, 2011 | n/a
Posted on April 3, 2011 6:02:27 PM PDT by Cindy

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“Top Jihadi Forums of 03 April, 2011”
http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/007253.html
Posted April 3, 2011

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“Top jihadi forum list updated”
SNIPPET: “More precisely, the list has once again shrunk to less than 10.”
http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/007260.html
Posted April 3, 2011

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Top Ten Jihadi Forums, as of 14 February, 2011
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | February 14, 2011 | n/a
Posted on February 14, 2011 2:16:36 PM PST by Cindy

“TOP TEN JIHADI FORUMS, AS OF 14 FEBRUARY, 2011”

SNIPPET: “Assembled with the help of my dear brothers in Fateh al-Islam (and their minders in the Syrian intelligence service). The [PWP] notation indicates the site is password protected. There’s nothing worse than the mournful wailing of analysts, graduate students, and reporters who find themselves locked out of their favorite forum. Join early, join often, save important discussions as you find them, try not to say anything too embarrassing, and if you’re a civilian, make some effort to let your friendly neighborhood secret police know that you’re a good guy, not a bad guy, so they don’t have to waste time and money investigating you. Forums are not just websites, they are battlefields, and spectators are not particularly welcome by any of the combatants.”

(Excerpt) Read more at internet-haganah.com ...

1 posted on February 14, 2011 2:16:39 PM PST by Cindy
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Top “Ten” List Updated
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | October 17, 2010 | n/a
Posted on October 18, 2010 12:40:40 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET - Quote: 17 October 2010

TOP “TEN” LIST UPDATED There are only 7 sites listed, of which one, at-Tahadi has been “closed for repairs” for a couple of weeks.

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17 October 2010
“TOP “TEN” JIHADI FORUMS 17 OCTOBER 2010”

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Top Ten Jihadi Forums, 04 September 2010
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | September 4, 2010 | n/a
Posted on September 5, 2010 12:07:49 AM PDT by Cindy

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Top Ten Jihadi Forums, 19 July 2010
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | July 19, 2010 | n/a
Posted on July 18, 2010 2:59:25 PM PDT by Cindy

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“Top Ten List 2010-07-06”
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | July 6, 2010 | n/a
Posted on July 6, 2010 3:06:55 PM PDT by Cindy

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05 July 2010
“TOP TEN LOCATIONS OF AL-FALOJA FORUM READERS”

SNIPPET: “Given that the adminstrators of the al-Faloja forum are already convinced that they have been somehow infiltrated or compromised, there seems little harm done in providing a glimpse of the current geographic distribution of the non-proxy using readers of the site.”

2 posted on July 6, 2010 3:08:54 PM PDT by Cindy

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“Top Ten Jihadi Forums 11 April 2010”
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | 11 April 2010 | n/a
Posted on April 11, 2010 2:51:21 PM PDT by Cindy

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“’TOP TEN’ LIST OF JIHADI FORUMS FOR 03 AUGUST 2009”
INTERNET-HAGANAH.com ^ | August 3, 2009 | n/a
Posted on August 3, 2009 3:24:12 PM PDT by Cindy

2 posted on October 18, 2010 12:44:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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17 October 2010
“WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A “REAL TERRORIST” AND AN “ASPIRING TERRORIST”?”

SNIPPET: “A: Access to explosives.

The good news is that explosives can be hard to come by, but that doesn’t keep the brothers from dreaming of the day when they can lay hands on some.”

3 posted on October 18, 2010 12:56:13 AM PDT by Cindy


4 posted on 10/01/2012 2:13:47 PM PDT by Cindy
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A Look at Iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html


5 posted on 10/01/2012 2:16:19 PM PDT by Cindy
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7 posted on 10/01/2012 2:30:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Let's look at what one of the Islamic World's "heroes" had to say about this subject: Ayatollah Khomeini:

Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.

. . . But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. . . . Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war.

Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you!

Does this mean that we should surrender [to the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword!

People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors!

There are hundreds of other [Qur'anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight.

Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.

Who are you going to believe, the Hamas Terrorist-supporting CAIR or the Jihadist-supporting, Lame Stream Media or this (former) Mad Mullah, and dozens of other such statements and written words of the "Profit" in the Quran and Hadiths ?

14 posted on 10/01/2012 3:44:57 PM PDT by neveralib
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15 posted on 10/01/2012 3:48:44 PM PDT by tomkat (counterattack)
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CAIR, the Muzzard B-hood and others will be explosive mad over this.


36 posted on 10/05/2012 10:34:41 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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ON THE INTERNET:


THE WASHINGTON FREE BEACON: "AL QAEDA WINTER Pentagon report: Terror group a significant threat to Libya" by Bill Gertz (October 8, 2012) (Read More…)

Report - Link (pdf) (Read More…)

Link (Read More…)


Video (FOX NEWS): "BOMBSHELL: OBAMA STATE DEPARTMENT WITHDREW 16 MEMBER SECURITY TEAM FROM LIBYA BEFORE ATTACK" (October 7, 2012) (Watch Here.)


THE WASHINGTON FREE BEACON: "REVOLT OF THE SPOOKS Intelligence officials angered by Obama administration cover up of intelligence on Iranian, al Qaeda surge in Egypt and Libya" by Bill Gertz (October 5, 2012) (Read More...)

ABC NEWS: "EMAIL SHOWS STATE DEPARTMENT REJECTING REQUEST OF SECURITY TEAM AT U.S. EMBASSY IN LIBYA" by Jake Tapper (SNIPPET: "Earlier this week, the chair of the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and another member of the committee wrote to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton listing 13 incidents leading up to the attack, ranging from IED and RPG attacks to a "posting on a pro-Gaddafi Facebook page" publicizing early morning runs taken by the late Ambassador Stevens and his security detail around Tripoli.") (October 5, 2012) (Read More...)

LONG WAR JOURNAL.org: "State Department: Ansar al Sharia an alias for AQAP" by Thomas Joscelyn (October 4, 2012) (Read More...)


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "After Benghazi" (October 1, 2012) (Read More...)


Video (FOX NEWS): "ALLEN WEST ON OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LIES ABOUT LIBYA" (October 1, 2012) (Read More...)

THE DAILY BEAST.com: "INTERCEPTS SHOW ATTACKERS ON U.S. CONSULATE IN BENGHAZI BRAGGED TO AL QAEDA" by Eli Lake (September 28, 2012) (Read More…)


Security.Blogs.CNN.com: "AL QAEDA SENDS FIGHTERS TO LIBYA" by Nic Roberton and Paul Cruickshank (December 30, 2011) (Read More…)

37 posted on 10/08/2012 3:26:18 AM PDT by Cindy
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http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?997-vaja-ir-site-of-the-MOIS

“vaja.ir, site of the MOIS

SNIPPET: “AP claims it is a new site, but the domain has been in existence since 2008. A walk through cached whois records is not entirely without interest.”



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4290723,00.html

“Iran’s spy agency finds voice in cyberspace”

Associated Press
Published: 10.10.12, 23:29 / Israel News


43 posted on 10/13/2012 2:44:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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NAFIS in a nutshell - Opinion>A devout Muslim man who was comfortable on the internet and who was interested in jihad against America.>He came to America to commit his jihad.>He got caught up in a sting operation.>He was arrested.

For more info, see post no. 44 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2946420/posts?page=44#44


49 posted on 10/18/2012 3:03:12 PM PDT by Cindy
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY: Washington - "TREASURY FURTHER EXPOSES IRAN-BASED AL-QA'IDA NETWORK Action Target Key Al-Qa'ida Facilitator Supporting Terrorist Activities in South Asia and the Middle East" (SNIPPET: "The U.S. Department of the Treasury today announced the designation of Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi (al-Harbi), a key member of an al-Qa'ida network operating in Iran and led by Iran-based al-Qa'Ida facilitator Muhsin al-Fadhli (al-Fadhli).") (October 18, 2012) (Read More…)

50 posted on 10/18/2012 5:09:38 PM PDT by Cindy
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forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?1024-Looking-for-Asrar-al-Mujahideen-v2-0-public-key-from-Indonesia

“Looking for Asrar al Mujahideen v2.0 public key from Indonesia”
(October 29, 2012)

SNIPPET: “If you come to me looking for the public key so you can communicate “secretly” with al-Qaida et al, this is what you get: exposure.”


65 posted on 10/31/2012 3:13:54 AM PDT by Cindy
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German Islamists Target Youth on the Internet

SPIEGEL.de - SPIEGEL Online ^ | November 1, 2012 | by Christoph Sydow
Posted on November 2, 2012 2:38:29 PM PDT by Cindy

“German Islamists Target Youth on the Internet” By Christoph Sydow 11/01/2012

“Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan.”

PHOTO CAPTION: “A growing community of German-speaking Islamists has developed on the Internet. Aiming to find new recruits, they glorify jihad and call for attacks on Germany. A new study warns that such online propaganda might foster a new generation of terrorists.”

SNIPPET: “International terrorist groups like al-Qaida recognized the importance of the Internet for recruiting new supporters early on.”

SNIPPET: “Intelligence services can also take advantage of the anonymity of Internet forums to deliberately plant false information or obtain insider information.”

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


68 posted on 11/04/2012 3:02:32 AM PST by Cindy
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