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The Brits? They’re a great people. As such, they have their dark side as well. But the world we inherited would not have come about without them, and would have been much poorer for it. That’s how I define “great” this morning, after having coffee.

So how does that definition match the Arabs? They invented Algebra (if they didn’t steal it from the Assyrians. Did they, anyone?), scared Europe enough that they went on the Crusades that started the European world moving towards the Renaissance, and made the Castilian/Catalonian alliance of Ferdinand and Izabella a Spain-wide phenomenon, so they could drive out the Muslim Moors, start the Inquisition to fleece Jewish and Muslim backsliders, and finance Columbus’ attempt to find a westerly route to India so they could avoid the brigandry and tariffs of the overland route, and the long trip around Africa. By accident, he discovered America instead, all because of the Moose Limbs. So they, too, were catalysts of great things, which happened in opposition to them, just like the British. But unlike the British, Arabs are mostly f@#$ed up in the head. There. I made a distinction. Hah.

the Brits were a great people. No disrespect to the many fine English folk I know. I lived in England for years in the early 2000s and while there are still a few good people, the majority are yobs now, unfortunately

This is due to their schooling which has deteriorated precipitately and their Paki minority. Tests showed that most students of the batch of 2003 couldn't pass the exams of the 1950s in Brit schools

But the world we inherited would not have come about without them, and would have been much poorer for it. -- that is true.

The "arabs" -- again, let's be specific and use this to refer to only the Nejd Arabis -- Mohammed and tribe

They didn't produce anything.

The Assyrians, Babylonians were Semites like Arabs or Jews but of different (Amorite or Akkadian) stock.

These Nejd Arabs didn't provide anything, BUT a continuous empire from India to Europe, which allowed for mixing of ideas on a scale that hadn't happened since the Seleucids (and was started by the Persians under Cyrus)

Europe going on the Crusades... well.. note that the Western Empire never actually "fell" to the Barbarians, but the Barbarians were romanized, just with themselves as rulers.

The real separation was caused by the Moslems conquering Christian Egypt, Syria, Iraq etc.