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To: pepsi_junkie

“You know, we’re willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign. But we’re not willing to be murdered for it,” Gen. Allen told CBS’ “60 Minutes” in a segment that aired on Sunday.
Gen. Allen told CBS Correspondent Lara Logan that the insider attacks will continue...”

So he knows insider attacks are happening, he isn’t going to do anything about it, and he knows they are going to continue. Frankly, it sounds like he is willing to let the troops get murdered.

It seems to me that he has had his ROE given to him and there is nothing he can do to protect the troops.if I were in his shoes I would Resign.


12 posted on 10/01/2012 7:18:45 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher
“You know, we’re willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign. But we’re not willing to be murdered for it,” Gen. Allen told CBS’ “60 Minutes” in a segment that aired on Sunday. Gen. Allen told CBS Correspondent Lara Logan that the insider attacks will continue...” So he knows insider attacks are happening, he isn’t going to do anything about it, and he knows they are going to continue. Frankly, it sounds like he is willing to let the troops get murdered. It seems to me that he has had his ROE given to him and there is nothing he can do to protect the troops.if I were in his shoes I would Resign.

And now that Gen. Allen has publicized this practice of "insider" suicide attacks and made it vastly more well known over here, I would imagine the incidence of them will ramp up rapidly, perhaps bringing about precisely what the enemy wants, us the hell out of there.

I'm quite sure Gen. Allen is well aware of the likely outcome as a result of his public statement.

My guess is the CIC was consulted prior to it being made, or it was made at the behest of the CIC.

26 posted on 10/01/2012 7:51:04 AM PDT by misanthrope ("...Everybody look what's goin' down.")
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To: puppypusher
It seems to me that he has had his ROE given to him and there is nothing he can do to protect the troops.if I were in his shoes I would Resign.

Bingo. That's exactly what he can do and indeed should do if he believes the things he said. Let's face it, the ROE are f'd up because the pols don't want bad press and are happy to let American soldiers be murdered in their own bases rather than get a "scandal" of actually rooting out 5th column Muslims from our forces. The press will bury the story of American deaths to protect Obama. The most effective thing this general could do then is to make this a scandal that they have to write about by resigning loudly and publicly.

27 posted on 10/01/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: puppypusher; All

As a Veteran, I am no more incensed and the next guy over what has been happening in regards to the ROE situation going back before Obama came into power. All of it is a steaming pile of crap to the highest order.

But this General has essentially signed his own resignation by giving this interview. Granted, he is a commander on the field of combat, but he also holds very close and dear the oath he gave without reservation.

But there comes a time when a man has got to do what a man has got to do. He is blowing the whistle in a big way just as LTC Allen West did. All the while knowing his actions to do what only he could to put those under his commands safety on a higher order than the controlled orders he swore to uphold and execute.

I will cut him a little slack in knowing he had the guts to administratively terminate his career in an effort to bring to light just how bad the situation is. With the high hopes I have on an administration change very soon, I say he may be far more valuable in the field to execute a totally new set of ROE directives come January 21st.

The only reason that Dempsey avoided being fragged was because he was never in Vietnam. His first combat action was as an XO during Desert Storm. Never in the trenches, never in the breach. Rot in hell you faggot loving SOB!


59 posted on 10/03/2012 4:53:41 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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