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U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s
market watch ^ | June 8, 2012, | Rex Nutting

Posted on 09/30/2012 1:40:43 PM PDT by sopwith

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Everyone knows America has too much debt. What they don’t know is that things are getting better, not worse.

Little by little, our economy is reducing its debt burden, slowly repairing the damage caused by 10, 20 or 30 years of excess.

If you want to know why economic growth has been so tepid, here’s your answer. Four years after the storm hit, the economy is still deleveraging. And it’s very hard for any economy to grow when everyone is focused on increasing their savings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: consumerdebt; corporatedebt; debt; deleveraging; governmentdebt; householddebt; privatedebt; publicdebt; studentdebt
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1 posted on 09/30/2012 1:40:51 PM PDT by sopwith
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To: sopwith

This sounds fishy need some input.


2 posted on 09/30/2012 1:41:57 PM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: sopwith

Four years ago a TRILLION dollar annual deficit was unthinkable. We’ve run four in a row with a max of about $1.4 TRILLION, all under OBastard’s watch.

How could we be deleveraging (ie, paying back debt) when we are accumulating debt at an all-time record pace? Smell like BS to me.

Maybe it’s the private sector deleveraging in anticipation of collapse. However, with the coming massive inflation, you want as much debt as you can service reliably — pay it off in fake Obama Bucks.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 1:44:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sopwith

Rex Nutting claims that because 0bama signed a stimulus bill that was pasted in 2009, by the Congress that was elected in 2008, that the stimulus spending actually belong to Bush.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 1:44:26 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: sopwith

To the extent we are deleveraging, it results from debts being defaulted on. The savings rate went up in 2008 and 2009, but is back down to almost nothing.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: sopwith

He’s nuts. The national debt is unsustainable. Eventually this will lead to monetizing the debt and hyperinflation follows.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: sopwith

I call nonsense smoke and mirrors


7 posted on 09/30/2012 1:48:05 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: sopwith

Rex Nutting is just another way of saying Paul Krugman.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 1:48:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: sopwith
This sounds fishy need some input.

The chart shows a bit under 4 trillion in debt. I think he might be talking about private and corporate debt, and deliberately confusing the corporate with public. Yes, these sectors are deleveraging, but it's being picked up by the government.

Government debt--explicit debt--is 16 Trillion bucks. That doesn't count the actuarial debt of committed payouts for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security--which makes it more like $100 Trillion.

Isn't Rex Nutting the nutter who claims that Obama has spent less than previous presidents, and who promoted that by counting a bunch of Obama spending as Bush's to create an artificially high baseline?

9 posted on 09/30/2012 1:48:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: sopwith
This is likely true, but even this article states the obvious, that while private debt has been getting paid down, or most likely defaulted, public debt has more than made up for the private debt paydown. But it still mostly all goes back to the taxpayers, so did they really get rid of the debt? All they did was begin to show prudence and self restraint, and then an uncontrollable government comes in and spends for them.

As for no one on the private side advocating restraint, there used to be bankers who said no to a loan application, or credit card companies not giving out cards like candy. The restraint was that businesses could lose their own money.

10 posted on 09/30/2012 1:49:51 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: sopwith

These people need to fill their tanks with gas and then go grocery shopping.

Maybe then they will have some facts to think about.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 1:50:45 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: sopwith

Good read, thanks!

“In the U.S., household debt has now fallen to 84% of GDP from a peak of 98%. Nonfinancial corporate debt has fallen to 77% from a peak of 83%. Financial sector debt has plunged from 123% of GDP to 89%. Public debt has risen to 89% from 56%. “


12 posted on 09/30/2012 1:52:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: sopwith

My take on the article, FWIW:

“it was excessive private debt — not public debt — that caused the 2008 financial meltdown”

Yes, but what the author isn’t including is that much of that debt would have never have occurred if the banks hadn’t had the carrot and stick of knowing their losses would be covered by the Feds *and* being pressured to make housing loans to people who simply could not afford them. We’ve all seen the stories of people getting mortgages on three or four properties, knowing full well that in other times, they wouldn’t have gotten those loans because they simply didn’t have enough income or assets. So I see it as a little disingenuous to call it exclusively private debt when government played such a major role.

As for private debt growing more slowly than before. I would guess it’s because most people can’t afford to spend the way they did when the economy was decent. Both becuase their own incomes are down, and the fear of what might happen next. Businesses, likewise, are reluctant to take on new expansions for similar reasons.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 1:52:48 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: sopwith

hes talking private debt.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 1:53:54 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: sopwith

Is this from the same clown who said Obamugabe was a “conservative” when it came to spending?


15 posted on 09/30/2012 1:54:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: sopwith
As the taxpayers pay down their relatively meager debts, their portion of the national debt goes through the stratosphere. Too bad the federal, state and local governments aren't requires to send statements to the taxpayers showing what they owe.
16 posted on 09/30/2012 1:55:32 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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My gtess us a lot of it has to do with bankruptcy and writing off of bad debts. Also a lot of folks can’t run up more because their credit is ruined.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 1:56:00 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: sopwith

Inflation...

Dollar Falls Most Since 2011 as Central Banks Bump Up Stimulus

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-29/dollar-falls-most-since-2011-as-central-banks-bump-up-stimulus.html


18 posted on 09/30/2012 1:56:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: sopwith

Bankruptcies do not “repair” anything.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 1:56:33 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: sopwith
Individuals very much so. Government; no.
20 posted on 09/30/2012 1:57:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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