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To: SeekAndFind
"Straight forward payroll taxes nailed us for $35k last year and the dozens of other taxes are often over-looked but also hitting us harder and harder."

This is the problem.

We are not being worked to death. We are being TAXED TO DEATH. We are TAXED TO DEATH, to pay for people who work for government and to whom this article does not apply. Yes, we are being TAXED TO DEATH so people who work for government can have the good life of high salary, fantastic fantasy level benefits, early retirement and MANY holidays and vacations.

If you are a middle class worker in the private sector your effective tax rate is at or greater than 50% !!!

This means if you work for 40 years of your adult life you spend 20 years of that time working for Government!!

That my friends is NOT FREEDOM, THAT IS SLAVERY. It's time we wake up. We must not reform government, we must replace it with the strictly limited system set out by our constitution. This means that MILLIONS of people who work for government at all levels including city, county, state and federal MUST BE FIRED. Their positions and benefits must be ELIMINATED PERMANENTLY, never to return. When you work in the private sector (real world) and your company goes bankrupt it's the employees who lose their jobs and suffer. Government is BANKRUPT and it's the government workers who are going to have to suffer the loss. We can no longer tolerate a system where freedom only applies to the "public" sector.

17 posted on 09/28/2012 5:52:23 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

The perfect post. You. Nailed. It.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 5:57:26 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: precisionshootist
When Obama said that government is the one thing we all belong to, he got it completely backwards.

Am I a slave? Am I the property of the government? Do I belong to the government? NO!

Government derives its power from We The People. Government belongs to us.

But they've created a servile state and now we all work for their benefit more than we work for ourselves.

19 posted on 09/28/2012 5:59:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: precisionshootist

Let’s not forget folks, there are a few factors:

1) More and more retirees living longer and less and less working people to support them ( we operated on a pay as yo go system for social security, there is NO LOCK BOX IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND ).

2) Same applies for Medicare as above. With Obamacare ADDING younger folks to the rolls ( many unemployed ) and you have MORE working people carrying the load for the rest.

3) 47% of Americans pay no taxes... which means 53% of those who DO pay taxes have to work extra hard to support government spending.

4) Less people are working because companies are not hiring. The result is those who DO have work will have to take on more responsibilities and MORE WORK.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 6:00:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: precisionshootist

It is a pity that 100% only goes to 100%. I could not agree more than I do.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 6:01:05 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: precisionshootist
We are not being worked to death. We are being TAXED TO DEATH. We are TAXED TO DEATH, to pay for people who work for government and to whom this article does not apply

Devils advocate here..federal tax rate is the lowest it has been in 50 years..what is REALLY hurting people that they can never catch up it's not so much that we are being taxed to death but wages have not increased (or even decreased in many cases) while cost of goods/services have risen by a large amount over the same period. Other problems..jobs increasingly becoming P/T or no benefits on an on.

Don't get me wrong..taxes are a problem but the bigger problem is wages have been stagnant for 15-20 years as globalization is the new norm and yet the cost of living has increased. The US is being taken down a peg or two via standard of living while other countries have been brought up.

40 posted on 09/28/2012 6:59:05 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: precisionshootist

These people are making good money if their ‘straightforward payroll taxes’ were $35K last year. If they’re talking about the total amount of taxes they had withheld as well, I imagine their final tax bill was less or he would have quoted that.


41 posted on 09/28/2012 7:03:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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