[chessplayer]

Why is it every time there is “bad” news for Romney or polls showing him down in the race ... it is always criticized as “bias” or unbelievable?

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Yup. But if they show him ahead they are hailed as the fountain of truth. Libs play the same game.

“There seems to be WAAAAAAY to much “whistling past the graveyard” here and FR.”

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Good way to put it.

[LS]

Au contraire. You'll see that I totally agree with the PA Ras poll that shows Romney behind. I think he is behind in PA, and that it's a waste of time (but not as far behind as Ras has him). I am a little distressed about the last Ras WI and IA polls.

So, at the same time, I'm encouraged by all the polling from FL and CO and NJ and NH (Romney up there 3, tied in FL and CO using a +3 Dem turnout, which may or may not be accurate---but it certainly won't be higher).

But surely you aren't buying national polls from ANYONE that have a D+13 or D+10 model? That's above even 2008? Is there ANYONE who thinks the Dem turnout this year will be higher than in 08? If so, I have a bridge to sell them.

[MNJohnnie]

Ok same question put another way.

Not one President who polled under 50% in the election season has won reelection. Even the pro Obama polling do not get him past that 50% number.

Why do you two insist Obama will be the exception to this historic record?

Seems all the fact is on the Romney camp's side and all the emotion based opinions on yours.

So why should we take your opinions seriously and not the facts?