[SmithL]

[CountryClassSF]

Heard that the Calif. Teacher’s Association is spending millions. Haven’t been able to turn the TV on without a No ad being seen

[Myrddin]

The teachers union has been running their lying commercial about 3 times an hour from 6 AM to 6 PM on KOGO in San Diego. That costs some big bucks. The first pro-32 ads just started running this week. It is very clear that the union have BIG bucks to spend against prop 32. They are really afraid to lose the ability to steal massive amounts of money from union dues and spend it on political campaigns and politicians.

[kingu]

No public employee should enjoy a single benefit that isn’t paid for directly from their salary. There should be nothing but the utmost of transparency in compensation for public employees. No deferred retirement benefits, no deferred health benefits - everything comes from the employee’s direct salary.

It’s simple common sense - how can you possibly plan for the future when you’re promising more and more of it to your current employees? Each time one retires, you’re paying their salary and benefits, as well as the salary and benefits of the new employee. Eventually, you run out other people’s money and bemoan the fact you can’t hire more people, because you’re already paying for everyone you previously hired...

Union thugs be damned, these are not bonds upon the city. These are not debts, they are promises. And eventually, those promises are going to have to be broken. Eventually, city councils are going to have to say ‘I don’t care what they promised you back then. That can’t factor in what I’m doing now, as we just can’t afford for you to continue stealing money from the public funds.’

Though the thugs are wising up to this, converting these promises into bonded debt upon the cities - only bonded debt is fixed, and none of these promises are. They are open ended, never to lower, always to rise.