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What John McLaughlin (pollster) Sees in the Polls Right Now (Must Read!)
Natiionla Review Online ^ | 09/21/12 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/21/2012 6:31:56 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: TonyInOhio

Wonderful post...thanks.
It confirms what I had heard after the 2008 debacle...new black voters for the “halfrican” but only 10% total of population made some difference but in the end, it was McLame as a horrible candidate and not supporting Sarah that kept true Pubbie base voters home, they too thinking Obummer may not be THAT bad.
They were wrong, they know it and they will turn out for Mitt to bury Obozo.


21 posted on 09/21/2012 7:10:17 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: KansasGirl

Well, Romney is worse than McCain. And Paul does not generate the same enthusiasm Palin did.

The only reason they are not losing by 10 is the economy. Maybe it will be enough to keep them within 2-3%, in which case the GOP can at least hold on to its House majority.

If Romney loses by 4-6%, the majority is gone as well.

And no, he is not going to win in November, McLaughlin’s bs notwithstanding.


22 posted on 09/21/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by ubaldus
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To: mel

2008 was a warning shot over the bow of the Republican party. “Stop acting like Democrats”. Obama gave rise to the largest political activism from conservatives that I’ve ever seen. The Republican party better wake up and get their noses out of the beltway media butt. The internet is our media not the MSM. I haven’t watched 5 minutes of any news show in years and always mute my radio at the top of the hour. There is a sleeping giant waking up and it’s Patriotic Americans who are sick of both political parties and want their country back NOW!


23 posted on 09/21/2012 7:11:21 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: KansasGirl

Totally agree...
And Obozo can’t get to 50% approval even with Lame Stream lying.


24 posted on 09/21/2012 7:12:48 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: apillar

Me too....


25 posted on 09/21/2012 7:14:24 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Col Frank Slade
Everytime I hear about attempts to supress / depress GOP turnout I have a picture of lines at Chick fil A in my mind.

Spot on. Unlike libs, conservatives are not out screaming, calling people names etc. Conservatives simply do what needs to be done. In this case, it means showing up in DROVES November 6th.

Stay focused, my FRiends and stay on message. We're less than 50 days from victory.

26 posted on 09/21/2012 7:14:59 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: TonyInOhio

OBummo is going to lose big. Just get out there on Nov 6th and vote. No excuses.


27 posted on 09/21/2012 7:16:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rep-always

We have a thread for this that has been going since early August:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2934352/posts


28 posted on 09/21/2012 7:18:00 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Col Frank Slade

And I think of 2010. Those voters haven’t gone anywhere. If anything, we picked up a whole lot of new ones.


29 posted on 09/21/2012 7:20:21 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: ubaldus
Well, Romney is worse than McCain

C'mon, tell us what you really think. :)

Disaffected Ron Paul guy? Fan of ex-Democrat Virgil Goode? Secret supporter of The Empty Chair?

30 posted on 09/21/2012 7:26:19 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (No representation without respiration!)
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To: ubaldus

You seem to be the proverbial Cult of One, at least so far on this thread.


31 posted on 09/21/2012 7:27:07 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

I look at the numbers, instead of wishing them away. And concluding from that I like Obama is a big leap - in fact I detest him. But he is going to get his 2nd term, barring some miracle in the remaining six weeks.

In 2008 most Freepers were trying to put the spin on the polls, and in the end the RCP poll average was right on the money.


32 posted on 09/21/2012 7:32:25 AM PDT by ubaldus
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To: Obadiah

If it’s 50/5 at this stage, considering all the dirt the Obama campaign has heaped in Romney’s direction and the fact that the MSM is almost 100% behind Obama. it would seem that
Romney should win the election hands down. With the abysmal
record of Obama, 40+ million on food stamps, unemployment at
an “admitted” +8%, probably over 10+, the countries debt in the proverbial toilet, it is hard to understand that the country would want more of the same. Unfortunately there are far too many Americans not paying attention and listening only to the MSM that an Obama victory is certainly possible.
However, I am optimistic that enough is known about Obama and his socialistic direction “redistribution of wealth” that enough Americans will see through him and his ideoligy to vote him out of office. That is my biased opinion.


33 posted on 09/21/2012 7:33:05 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: KansasGirl
McCain was an AWFUL candidate.

Yep. Our ticket was upside down. In fact, McCain shouldn't have even been in the number two slot.

34 posted on 09/21/2012 7:35:41 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mel
I don’t know, I was shocked when Obama was elected. Although McCain was a loser. I was quite dumbfounded that people would elect someone who could not wear a flag, put his hand over his heart and was basically a Muslim.
Yeah, but the corrupt MSM totally covered for Obama. Therefore, in true fairy tail fashion Obama was totally free to be the blank slate candidate and spout the loftiest of platitudes. Like a screaming child in the backseat of a long drive, the corrupt MSM's daily shrill attacks on Bush took their toll and people were completely set up to have the child-like, backseat anti-Bush/Republican screaming stop. And again, Obama filled that promise beautifully -- with the assistance of the corrupt MSM. Today, it is different. We have the smoking crater results all around us. There is no illusion this time around for this evident reality.

Then, I thought they will never pass this idiotic health care bill and I was deeply disappointed again.
True, but again, polls at the time showed the public disapproved... and then the November 2010 proved historic, which seems to have faded from most people's memory. Remember, previously, Democrats controlled everything and by wide margins with a super-majority in the Senate.

This time I am not going to send my self into depression and try to avoid getting pulled into the emotions of this elections, It is a health issue
I completely understand.

35 posted on 09/21/2012 7:37:08 AM PDT by Obadiah (The Hunger Games -- Obama's vision for America)
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To: TonyInOhio
I had reached a similar conclusion not long ago. Polls are being used for PROPAGANDA purposes, particularly for “Dear Leader” by the Obama Stooge “Mainstream Media.”

I read a story in World Net Daily recently about financiers buying a huge house in Hawaii for Dear Leader since his internal polling shows that he cannot win in November. Move in time is January 2013. That could just be propaganda and is no excuse for not getting out to vote in November.

The thing to take away here: IGNORE the polls and GET OUT AND VOTE!! The future of our great Republic depends on it!

36 posted on 09/21/2012 7:37:34 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: TonyInOhio

"I'm voting for Obama because I know he's not finished yet."

37 posted on 09/21/2012 7:40:42 AM PDT by Obadiah (The Hunger Games -- Obama's vision for America)
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To: TonyInOhio

“But the vast majority say that they are definitely or very likely to vote. They’re voting.”

Hmmmm. That’s not so good — I thought we were counting on low enthusiasm on their side?


38 posted on 09/21/2012 7:41:14 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ubaldus
I look at the numbers, instead of wishing them away.

Funny thing to say in a thread that shows the numbers are lying to you. When was the last time you had a clue?

39 posted on 09/21/2012 7:42:29 AM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: TonyInOhio
One of the most memorable classes which I ever took was from a junior professor who had once worked under Richard Wirthlin (Reagan's pollster). She not only told us about but showed and explained the methodology by which Wirthlin predicted and even underestimated the 1980 Reagan landslide.

Traditional Democrat voting groups had lied to pollsters in spades out of fear of rebuke from Kool-Aid drinkers who held some power over them (union, dependence, etc.) but which Wirthlin's group was able to filter out with leading questions.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen this time around because the country is so much dumber than it was in 1980 and so demographically changed. At best, Romney barely breaks 300 electoral votes.

40 posted on 09/21/2012 7:44:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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