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GLENN BECK: SECTION of Mitt ROMNEY’s “GHAFFE” TAPE You Haven’t Heard
www.GlennBeck.com ^ | Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 09/21/2012 12:49:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fed; federalreserve; romney; ronpaul; sourcetitlenoturl; tape; theft
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Tell it to the "Establishment Republicans" !
21 posted on 09/22/2012 2:19:50 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Romney will lose.

On another thread, WhiskeyX's analysis is very good on

Now the "Republican Establishment's" hatred for conservatives is well known.
Jon Bershad wrote about Rush's analysis of their PANIC.

How many times has the "Republican Establishment" treated us to one lecture after the other on the need for “compromise” and “patience.”?
After we elect and RE-elect the "Republican Establishment", they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail.
It may be worth it for the GOP to lose some elections - if it means that conservatives—and the country—will ultimately win.

If we didn’t know it before, WE ... the Tea Partiers, now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.

Ironically, we can thank the "Republican Establishment" for impressing this so indelibly upon us!!!
I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none.
But my ... LOATHING ... for the "Establishment Republicans" ... is even stronger!
The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!

22 posted on 09/22/2012 2:27:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Hey -

There is way to much there for me to read. I’m sorry I haven’t replied for a week. I skimmed and tried to hit the bold.

The ‘purist’ and ‘giving away elections’ argument is the same argument. too pure, therefore lose elections.

You mention that the Tea Party’s birth, spiritually, was really during the disillusionment of the compassionate conservative Bush years. It’s fair, but only in not kind, not in extent.

My disillusionment was long, long before that. You might be mistaking me for a flimsy ‘conservative.’ The things we stand for are simple, but are considered loony. It is not we who are loony, it is the electorate. I’m going to be honest and balance that by saying I know Boston, MA, very well - I know lawyers whom it would take me 46 years to convince that economically, socialism doesn’t work, not to mention the hatred and loss of life. I’m going to double balance that by saying that demographically, you and I better off producing 6 kids each against the blue states’ average 1.2. Because they are running the show right now.

Red staters are carrying this nation demographically, thank God for them, but they are shrinking. Blue crowds into the country like an infection. They aren’t invading not consciously, nor by numbers or reproduction, but they are convincing the 90% who don’t really care to think about things enough to understand history ... and right now ... winning is determined by only a few points.

Sarah Palin is great, and literally a beautiful person (not a Biden quote - I mean - she’s pretty - and I think also beautiful,) I can’t think of an issue upon which I disagree. She is also unelectable in the current climate. That is wrong, that is unfair. But she is unelectable with this electorate. It’s just the reality.

Coming back ... philosophically, the most important moral code I ever heard was from a man who was challenged by a liberal friend of mine. My friend (not really a friend any more) yelled “OK Then what DO you believe in, what is YOUR code.” This man calmly responded “I do what works.”

That is a frightening philosophy if you are a communist. It is the only philosophy if you love liberty. There was a time when war was ‘what worked.’ And men went to war. This is not a time of war. This is a battle for ideas.

I repeat: This is not a time of war. I just want to make that clear for all the lurkers sniffing. This is the culmination of a battle for what was once poetically termed “an idea so delicate, you could only whisper it.” It can’t be proven in debate or battlefield. . Liberty ... can’t ... be ... proven. That’s why it was framed as “before any man made government” ... as created by a Creator. As a ‘given’. As ‘already extant.’ Freedom is equivalent to your birth.

It’s what Ayn Rand meant by ‘A = A.’ Self Evident. Tautology. Given. It’s Galt’s entire speech.

Can’t win this with people who want a free cellphone.

Your way won’t work in a society that votes. Mankind has always, historically, destroyed its great works.

The electorate has been gradually hypnotized, collectively, into a trance. they don’t think much about it, it’s accepted as revealed truth.

The only thing that will trump this is gradual change, and that change is against every inkling of mankind as a collective set of lemmings, according to his history, save for the fact that he has occasionally fought for it.

Mitt Romney carries this fight internally - the purer fight. Because he doesn’t carry it externally, is exactly why you don’t like him, and exactly why he’s electable.

Yosemite, your way is right, it is just, and it will fail in a country where not 47% should be allowed to vote, but where 80% would fail the barest history quiz. They don’t know that Obama is just a techno-stalin. It’s way too hard to grasp. They don’t understand credit swaps, derivatives, the allure of communism masquerading as equality. They don’t understand why atheist governments destroy their populace, and that religion, for all it’s mistakes, is, as Winston describe democracy, the least-worst set up.

Romney is a Trojan Horse. Reagan was the horse that set him up. This election isn’t about Romney. It’s a hope that Romney mentor’s both the country and Ryan, and others.

it’s the country itself, not these pols running, that need to change. Yes, I’d love many others than Romney. But he’s the least worst catalyst. Is he bending to win? Yep. And it’s why he has a chance.

It’s tempting to be a purist. But we don’t live in a pure physical universe. We live in a set of conditions. We have to address the conditions, not the the universe as we wish it were. You may die fighting proudly for your cause, you may impress your sons or daughters. But you won’t do the most possible to preserve liberty.

As of now, there is still a chance that cause can be won by ideas. Reagan’s presidency approached this. Bush 1 just didn’t have the charisma. Clinton’s demonstrated only that increased wealth is not a substitute for character. Bush 2 was a compromise, the distraction of war, the almost perfect terror record and it’s cost, was the real victory by Al Qaeda ... they beat us on the financial front - they handed Obama his entire hidden argument.

You’re taking into consideration, I believe, with respect, too few issues. I agree with the issues in your context, however. I just think your context would fail, because it doesn’t take into consideration a broad enough range of realities on the ground. ‘Realities on the Ground’ are what matter, not our desire for perfection.

True, Romney will make no difference for 20 years. Partially because he’s too weak. On the other hand, his chance of making a difference is that he’s electable - exactly because he’s so weak. It’s wrong! I agree, but it’s the only path. There is no 4, 8 year solution in sight. It’s the electorate’s fault, no yours or mine.

The struggle for liberty was never a piece of cake - was never the next election away. The country has to be guided. Right now, it’s recalcitrant, will buck against any tug.


23 posted on 10/01/2012 12:39:06 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: HannibalHamlinJr
Your comment #23 is a "Shotgun Statement".
It's all over the place, and I don't have the time right now to weed through it and correctly respond.
I'll give it some thought and get back to it.
Romney, at best, is a door stop, and that's all.
At least he's not a Fabian Fascist and her was born in this country.
But Romney's still a stinking socialist, and he's the very heart of the "Establishment Republicans"
24 posted on 10/04/2012 11:16:57 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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CORRECTION:
25 posted on 10/04/2012 11:19:18 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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