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Black Woman Stands Her Ground, Kills White Man
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| 9/18/12
| Martin Barillas
Posted on 09/18/2012 4:47:55 PM PDT by AstralisLux
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To: Scoutmaster
Well how about, he was playing his music too loud so she shot him. Oops. That’s not considered “standing your ground” anymore. Shooting somebody because of a fender bender doesn’t make sense to me. It’s dumb. Really dumb. Life is cheap in this country these days and I’m getting sick of it.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:02:54 PM PDT
by
FlingWingFlyer
(The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
To: OneWingedShark
Self defense is self defense; race makes no impact.
Yup.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:03:05 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: AstralisLux
An eyewitness, who appeared on camera but has requested anonymity, said that he did not hear any threat in the seconds before Scott killed Ables. The witness was pumping gas and standing 15 feet away from Ables when a bullet ricocheted past him and struck his car. The bullet left a noticeable impression on the witnesss car.
I'm sure that says enough.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:03:23 PM PDT
by
PJBankard
(I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
To: a fool in paradise
The road rage occurred on the road, I take it, and not "in the parking lot".This may have been a simple accident that she called a road rage incident in order to, ex poste facto, justify shooting the guy.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:04:42 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
To: AstralisLux
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:07:02 PM PDT
by
vpintheak
(Occupy your Brain!)
To: robowombat
If she shot “through” the window and her car was operational, this will be a God send for George Zimmerman if she is found not guilty.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:09:48 PM PDT
by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: robowombat
The witness unaffiliated with either driver disagrees with her account. No argument before the shooting. No pounding.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:10:23 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Pretty disappointed with the comments here. Lots of racial statements. If you believe Stand your ground was good in Trayvon, you should believe the same thing here whether, black/white male/female. If footage shows otherwise that changes but we should be viewing it the same way.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:14:24 PM PDT
by
shoedog
To: Tijeras_Slim; Revolting cat!
Im sure the New White Panther Party will put a bounty on her head. Wayne Kramer is still around. Ask him if he's going to do a fundraiser concert.
PS for all of the MC5's political grandstanding in the 60s (they were the band that actually played the Chicago 1968 DNC protest rally when word on the street was it would be the Beatles or Stones), they got called out in NYC by other members of the White Panthers as being politically incorrect meatheads, not properly politically agitated savy liberals. It was their manager John Sinclair who painted them as political revolutionaries. Wayne Kramer still believes the hype though.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:15:08 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
To: AstralisLux
Dude was an angry douchebag and it got him killed.
Give her the gun back and send her on her way home.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:19:54 PM PDT
by
EricT.
(The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
To: AstralisLux
Assuming there's no film of the incident and no eyewitnesses you look at the physical evidence...prints,blood,etc,etc,etc.etc and you look at their backgrounds.If one has a dirty history and the other clean then the dirty one was was probably in the wrong.
Unless there's something I'm missing here this one's very similar to a more famous recent case.
To: AstralisLux
For the record, you’re allowed to post a 300 word excerpt from any source on FR’s green light list.
It’s hard to get a conversation started with just a teaser, and lots of folks will give you grief for posting a cliffhanger like that.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Zhang Fei
I read that she called 911 before she pulled into the Shell Station.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:26:48 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
(The Clintons are extremely afraid of obama. Do they owe him their souls?)
To: a fool in paradise
That’s the big question. The lawyer’s story is diverging from the event and even the police report.
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To: AstralisLux
Assuming the report of the incident is accurate(a dangerous assumption now days!)The statement of the witness turns guilt or innocence into a question of fact.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:29:48 PM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: AstralisLux
Nonetheless, the victims girlfriend, Evelyn Bautista, claimed that Ables was not aggressive. Hes just a regular guy, she said. Ables family members also claim that it is hard to believe that he deserved his killing.Even rabid dogs 'don't deserve killing,' if we go by what the family and friends say.
Having experienced the wrong end road rage, I can assure everyone that race does not play a role. Road rage is road rage.
I am sure I am not the only driver who has been involved in a fender bender, and failed to rush the other driver's car, pounded on her window and tried to open the other driver's door. This nut deserved what he started by acting like an animal.
If I were on her jury, I would be totally on her side.
All based on the preliminary facts given. What is important and missing is the input from any witnesses (plural) to the event.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:30:38 PM PDT
by
publius911
(Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
To: AstralisLux
I agree with others. Self-defense is self-defense.
I do note that this was in daylight, in a public place with others present, and she was still inside her car so its not an exact equivalent to the more famous case.
So I’ll be curious to see how the investigation turns out.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:31:06 PM PDT
by
marron
To: a fool in paradise; All
An eyewitness, who appeared on camera but has requested anonymity, said that he did not hear any threat in the seconds before Scott killed Ables. In this instance, "eyewitness" is a misnomer. He did not see any of the incident until it was over. He is more of an "earwitness".
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