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U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens was breathing when found in embassy
Toronto Star ^
| Sept. 17, 2012
| Maggie Michael
Posted on 09/17/2012 9:56:05 AM PDT by indpndtguy
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:14:47 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
To: plain talk
Given that perspective, you would be unable to “know” anything about the world around you.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:29:30 AM PDT
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: kevinm13
When they reported in a couple of hours that he had died of smoke inhalation, I knew it had to be wrong.
Considering how the White Hut’s first priority was getting the campaign props (bodies) to the next venue asap, I knew there was no time to pursue anything except what Hussein’s truth needed to be.
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posted on
09/18/2012 5:57:44 AM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: indpndtguy
God bless ‘em for trying, at least.
104
posted on
09/18/2012 7:50:11 AM PDT
by
RightOnline
(I am Andrew Breitbart!)
To: CharlesWayneCT
27 posted on Mon Sep 17 2012 12:28:46 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by CharlesWayneCT: “The media wont report any of this. We dont see daily body counts from the lost war in Afghanistan. We dont see the list of real failures.” Charles, I usually agree with you, but on this point the New York Times does run a daily report on those who have died in Afghanistan. It's on my newstracker alerts from the NYT. Unfortunately, with troops deployed over there not only from Fort Leonard Wood but also lots of local people with hometowns in this area serving in uniform and stationed elsewhere, I need to have that information.
To: palmer
Yes, antipathy. Not empathy. That would be the completely wrong word. Thanks.
To: kevinm13
Some of the men shout, God is great. Agree with your assesment; and would include the line above as already 'edited'. Doubt message was shouted in English. Instead; cries of Allahu Ackbar; were no doubt heard; and that they did carry meaning. The meaning; we are now; all too familiar with.
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posted on
09/18/2012 7:25:57 PM PDT
by
cricket
To: headstamp 2; StarFan; NautiNurse; Bigg Red; stanz; Fred; Jet Jaguar; timestax; llevrok; ...
Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the attack on the consulate, part of a wave of assaults on U.S. diplomatic missions in Muslim countries over a low-budget movie made in the United States that denigrates the Prophet Muhammad.The big lie continues.
Yep. And Obamugabe repeated that Big Lie again tonight during his *full hour* on the Letterman Show.
Letterman's audience gave him a standing O by the way...
108
posted on
09/18/2012 10:59:20 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
(I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
To: nutmeg
109
posted on
09/19/2012 12:33:27 AM PDT
by
NautiNurse
(Barack Obama--you are the weakest link. Goodbye!)
To: NautiNurse
I think of your "Hate Show" Letterman marquee graphic whenever I think of (or rarely watch) Letterman's show now.
So true... perfect graphic!
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posted on
09/19/2012 9:24:06 AM PDT
by
nutmeg
(I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
To: nutmeg
111
posted on
09/19/2012 11:41:05 AM PDT
by
timestax
(Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
To: SE Mom
"Another thing I find striking- theres almost no information telling us how the other three men died- what was done to them?"
Does anybody know who the fourth man was?
Every time, I hear he Ambassador by name, the 2 Seals by name, and then a "generic" other person - not named and why he was at embassy.
Maybe just a visitor or something, but I never hear the 4th person's name or occupation.
Fourth person's ID just kind of hangs in the air.
112
posted on
09/20/2012 2:22:31 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: fso301
"Even in the best medical facility, a person presenting with smoke inhalation doesnt have good survival odds."
Did the others die of smoke inhalation? Where were the other three bodies when the Ambassador was detected?
113
posted on
09/20/2012 2:29:48 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: plain talk
"I wish they had video of what happened next when he was ... er carried to the hospital."
In photos I've seen, there is no shortage of cell phones - there may be photos or video of events with someone(s).
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posted on
09/20/2012 2:32:25 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: indpndtguy
"The men carried Stevens to a private car to drive him to the hospital since there was no ambulance, all three witnesses said."
Moved via private car or dragged to hospital?
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posted on
09/20/2012 2:35:11 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: Paine in the Neck
"If someone has the means and skills to grab the video and dub Hillary's lame explanation over it I think it would be very effective in puncturing the administration's lying spin on this event."
Yes, and Obama, too. And a still photo (or video) of caskets. Let's hear Obama and Hillary speak to this.
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posted on
09/20/2012 2:38:18 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: palmer
" You dont help by searching the victims pockets."
Looking for their trophy's ID?
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posted on
09/20/2012 3:09:06 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
(PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. THE DEVIL ROAMS.)
To: hummingbird
The 3 to 5 hours that Obama won’t talk about will come out soon. Stevens was not alive in those pictures even though everybody claims he was. He also wasn’t getting help from those people. Nothing is what it seems. Obama is responsible for their deaths. Sry that is all I can say.
To: Ohiobelle
If he is dead in the picture below:
![](http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/09/12/news/web_photos/513799514102342--525x370.jpg)
then he is very dead because rigor mortis to fix his head in place like that takes two hours. So his "helpers" would have to know he is very dead and are just putting on a show for the whoever is taking the picture or fighting over the body or something. OTOH, I still think he might be alive in the picture by skin color. Doesn't look dead to me. Either way the caption at the NY Post is wrong, he would have to be conscious to hold his head up or dead with rigor mortis.
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posted on
09/20/2012 3:18:10 PM PDT
by
palmer
(Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
To: hummingbird
The fourth person was an embassy employee who was some sort of IT guy. He does have a name because I’ve read it, but I don’t recall it at this moment and I am too lazy to look it up. He is referred to as a “maven” over and over again in news stories. As in, he was very good at some internet-based game. He was in the Air Force at some point. He was around 30ish from what I recall. He has a very liberal wife based on what I read of her Twitter feed. And he left two young children.
The SEALs were not with the Embassy at all. They were in country for other reasons. I thought one of them might have been on his security detail, but reports have debunked that. Both former Navy dudes were contractors. The first report I read about one of the SEALs said that he was with a group of contractors seeking and destroying weapons.
The IT guy was talking online with his online gaming friends/acquaintances when the attack started. It makes me think of one of my sons who has the hardest time tearing himself away from one of his online games. They knew an attack was coming, and they sat there. But we don’t know all the story, so I should shut up and wait for the media to tell us what REALLY happened. heh
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