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Spoken like a true leader and statesman.

Of the candidates that ran for the 2012 GOP Nomination, Rick Santorum would have been the best candidate and the best president.

1 posted on 09/15/2012 12:12:14 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Indeed. Without social conservatism, there is no fiscal conservatism. Social liberalism always leads to more statism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIw5_a_jI0o


2 posted on 09/15/2012 12:16:32 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Uncle Slayton

That alienates men like me.

The Presbyterian church left me decades ago.

While I love and enjoy my family, I am basically a loner. If I didn’t have a family with 3 adult children, and at last count 5 grandkids, I would still be a dedicated conservative.

Rick is incorrect.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 12:19:41 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Without family there is no human race. But the reason why we don’t want social issues in the forefront is that no matter how many Sandra Flukes they bait us with Democrats aren’t running against church and family. Pretending they are makes us look stupid. Or if not stupid, speaking in empty generalities. Like when we talk about individual responsibility or they about shared responsibility. Nobody cares.

Where their policies endanger either it’s almost always an economic issue, anyway. The Fluke thing is about freedom of religion only because government is taking over healthcare.


4 posted on 09/15/2012 12:20:06 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Uncle Slayton
"Without the church and the family, there is no conservative movement..."

Familly OK, but ... Church?

Ayn Rand acolytes are essentially near-perfect conservatives, and most of them have no ties to any religion.

5 posted on 09/15/2012 12:23:13 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Uncle Slayton
"Of the candidates that ran for the 2012 GOP Nomination, Rick Santorum would have been the best candidate and the best president. "

Amen. But if he added middle class to Church and family he would win in a landslide. I hope Santorum did not vote for any job exporting trade deals.

6 posted on 09/15/2012 12:27:12 PM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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I wish the social conservatives wouldn’t insult those of us who are conservatives without the church and family. That is just stupid when you are in elections that are close.

When all is said and done, the most important thing is the math and winning elections, which influence matters of economics, foreign policy, etc.

The fact is that social conservatism will exist in civil society despite who is president.

I’m sorry, but the president isn’t and shouldn’t be the preacher in chief. He isn’t the Pope.

On the other hand, I strongly defend social conservatism against any encroachment by the state and its demeaning by the state or by liberals, the liberal media, or the Democratic Party.

I have no problem being allies with social conservatives, because they are far more protective of my freedom than Marxists, secular leftists and Democrats who despise the United States, but please don’t chuck those of us who you need to protect you from state tyranny, socialism, and an appeasement policy towards Muslim terrorists and illegals.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 12:36:39 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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Disagree with the religious criteria.

There are many nonreligious people who know right from wrong, who have ideals and values we can respect, and who lead morally good and ethical lives.

And there are many examples today of people who claim to be religious, who even believe themselves to be religious, but do not know right from wrong, do not understand what is good and what is bad, and who do not know live a moral or ethical life.

Look at John Kerry for example.
Nancy Pelosi is another.


11 posted on 09/15/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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