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To: Uncle Slayton

Disagree with the religious criteria.

There are many nonreligious people who know right from wrong, who have ideals and values we can respect, and who lead morally good and ethical lives.

And there are many examples today of people who claim to be religious, who even believe themselves to be religious, but do not know right from wrong, do not understand what is good and what is bad, and who do not know live a moral or ethical life.

Look at John Kerry for example.
Nancy Pelosi is another.


11 posted on 09/15/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Iron Munro

“There are many nonreligious people who know right from wrong, who have ideals and values we can respect, and who lead morally good and ethical lives.”

Ayn Rand was right about many things. However - would you want your daughters to follow her example? Do you think they would be happy living their personal life the same way that she did?

Do you think Ayn Rand was happy with her home life?

We are all fallen people. It isn’t weakness that encourages us to get together regularly and support one another. We cannot do it alone, and if we try, we will fail.

The bible ties it all together. I agree, people can be moral without knowing God - Roman’s says so. However, the question still remains. Where does morality come from? Is morality intrinsic, or extrinsic? If it is extrinsic, how do we discover what is or is not moral?


14 posted on 09/15/2012 1:08:01 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Iron Munro

I don’t know Kerry or Pelosi personally.
I believe they are nominal Catholics,
because a devout Catholic wouldn’t vote
the way they vote, nor spout platitudes that are
the direct opposite of the faith they “profess.”
If they were educated in Catholic schools (and
they are older than I,) they KNOW the difference
between right and wrong, they just prefer to
ignore that unpleasant truth for their careers.
“God” (for those of us are believers), have mercy
on them when their time here has ended.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 1:09:57 PM PDT by stanley windrush
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To: Iron Munro
Amen

+1

31 posted on 09/15/2012 4:40:31 PM PDT by tomkat
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