Posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:33 AM PDT by yoe
Negotiators for the Chicago Public Schools and the Chicago Teachers Union are back at the bargaining table this morning.
The talks began around 10 a.m.
10:30 a.m. Some students balk at crossing pickets
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
That’s an interesting time frame. Isn’t that around the time real education itself went out the same window?
Not this FReeper. They work about 180 days a year. They make far more per hour than I do and that's only assuming that we all work a 40 hour week. I don't get a fall break, spring break, a winter break, a summer vacation break, all government holidays and free health benefits and pension.
No amount of increased spending ever made a child smarter. I don't care if it was higher teacher salaries, air conditioning, computers, fancier campus, swimming pool, gymnasiums, soccer fields, carpet floors, better lunches, etc. We don't hire "professionals" in public schools. We hire policy followers and box checkers.
My wife and I sacrifice mightily to send our kids to a private school. In return I have my kids educator's home and cellular phone numbers. The school REQUIRES certain involvement from the parents. This drives expectations at home and in the schools. Bad teachers don't last long in private schools and are paid far less than their public school counterparts. Why? Because they are passionate about what they do and take pride in success.
How are public schools measured, really? Graduation rates? Test Scores?
Private schools are acedemically competitive. Guidance counselors have to send letters to colleges explaining why Johnny's 1,200 SAT test score doesn't match up with only his top 50% class rank. It confuses and confounds the likes of Harvard, Columbia, Ivy League, etc. The same kid graduates with a 3.5 GPA from his private high school but is, pound for pound, far more prepared for college and life than his public school educated peer who graduated with a 3.9 in the top 15% of his class and only scored a 950 on the SATs.
Do public school teacher unions ever have these kinds of concerns or challenges with their students success? They haven't gotten past how to make sure a teacher isn't fired for child abuse. Its like cave men trying to relate to NASA.
How dey gwon git to da skoo ? in some case they live as far aways a 2 blocks !
Our schools have free meals for po kids all summer long...and you don’t have to be in school either....
I don't know whether CPS teachers deserve more money or not; but, at least in theory, teachers should be educated, highly intelligent people who SHOULD make more money than grocery store clerks, burger-flippers, "security guards", etc, etc.
Now, is the current crop doing what they are paid for? If not, how do they deserve a raise?
probably running the skool buses too...
Or they could car jack something..
ride with their hommies in the caddi with air ride and rubber band tires..
or... gasp.... walk!
Those that can’t do.. teach.
I know a fellow that just retired from 30 years of professional welding.
He applied for a job at the school teaching a welding class 2 hours a day.
They turned him down because he did not have, nor could he get a teachers license (didn’t go to the right classes..) without 2 or 3 years of schooling.
This guy taught me how to weld to soda cans together. He can weld anything. Has all the proper certifications to weld anything, anywhere, for any reason.
Now, that right there is just stupid.
Most big city schools are nothing more than “free” food
distribution points,union paper pusher full-employment centers and warehouses for the yutes.
this just proves it.
With state gubmint rules in MN, Henry Kissinger wouldn’t be allowed to teach a high school class on foreign affairs because he doesn’t have the proper “certifications”.
Abort them in the womb, sacrifice their education to union interests, and destroy their future opportunity with massive Gov't debt and a hyper-regulated economy.
It was nixed because the other parents didn't want us learning that (*stuff*). English was good enough for them, so it was good enough for us. Fools, all. It was an excellent opportunity wasted.
Now, if you're talking about "Spanish Immersion" schools - then you're absolutely right. Kids need to learn English, first (and math, science, etc etc). But, an opportunity for them to pick up a second language - in *addition to* not at the *detriment of* their studies - is one that should be taken, IMHO.
I've got a BS in Electrical Engineering, and 20 year experience in IT. Once, in a fit of foolishness, I talked to Mrs WBill (a Community College teacher) about what it would take to pass on a lot of what I learned.
Forget it. I started a mentoring program at work, instead.
“Most K - third grade teachers use their own meager salaries to get the supplies they need to their class rooms. If these teachers would speak up as a group, not as a union, America would come to their aid. But speaking as a union will not help.”
Oh really? Is that why I pay tuition for my 5yo daughter to go to public school kindergarten, plus must provide class materials and my child’s materials, plus pay for busing and 2.50 per federally subsidized lunch as well as providing a snack for the class once per month? All that on top of a 37.5% increase in my property taxes last year and somehow I am supposed to sympathize? Yeah, I think not!
Ha, a Freeper had this whine pegged already.
We're talking Chicago here!
I agree with you. Learning another language is a good thing. But this school is conducting an entire half day of class in Spanish, not just having a Spanish lesson.
They average $71k per annum—hardly meager.
‘What am I supposed to do with my kid?’
OMG!! What do they do with them in the summer when school is out??? GEEZ!
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