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To: Tennessee Nana

In the religion forum? No, if its here, everyone can comment, not just the mormons. So i like that. It seems like an open way to discuss things. Even people like you can chime in and opine as long as you stay within FR rules. Besides, every day i get treated for example to numerous Catholic theads here that are nothing but pure esoteric dogma discussions, and they are not always in the religion forum. Yet, i never see you whine about that?


13 posted on 09/09/2012 10:59:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Yeah. I see numerous Catholic and Islamic threads in the news area.


16 posted on 09/09/2012 11:04:08 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: DesertRhino
hmm ~ discussions of Catholic dogma ~ on FR! Zoot alors!

The difference is that just about everybody signed on to the Peace of Westphalia ~ even the Pope, serious Protestant leaders, kings, princes and folks who imagined themselves to be very important.

There were some standards set that would be good to adapt to ~ that (1) nations don't go to war over the religious beliefs of their neighbors, (2) nations are in charge of their own conduct regarding matters of religion

Implicit in those two points is the idea that OTHERS can criticize whatever your religion believes, and folks can propound on their religious beliefs without concern for the religious sensibilities of others.

What I"m leading up to is the fact that Eastern Orthodox, Moslem and Mormon groups didn't sign on to the Treaties that made up the Peace of Westphalia ~ which might well be part of the source of your discomfort.

You might look it up and study it someday. It replaced simple toleration with a different belief ~ (1) you can believe whatever you can get away with, and (2) others can criticize it and you got to stand there and take it.

When the Bill of Rights came along the principle was extended a bit to include speech, press, peaceable assembly, petition, and several other things.

No one gets a special exception carved out ~ as a citizen I can complain and kvetch about anybody's religion and there's nothing they can do about it, NOR should they expect anything to be done, or sympathy extended.

You will need to catch up and that might as well be now as some other time.

BTW, I find the Catholic discussions interesting ~ they extend my understanding of a part of that religious tradition not often seen outside of church. So, thanks Catholics ~ good job. Never mind me eh!

50 posted on 09/09/2012 11:46:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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