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When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
Whiskey & Gunpowder ^ | Aug 1st, 2012 | Jim Karger

Posted on 09/08/2012 7:57:38 PM PDT by bopdowah

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; confiscation; govtabuse; gunconfiscation; guns; servethis; suethis; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Texas Fossil
Marshall Law?

Marshall - the guy with the badge on his chest

martial - "of or pertaining to war" as in martial law, rule by the military.

101 posted on 09/08/2012 9:22:41 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: piytar

Just went to Ask.com and found out a total of 1 M1 had been knocked out by an IED. What’s the real scoop here?


102 posted on 09/08/2012 9:23:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Gargantua

You aren’t aware of the firearms confiscation in NOLA after Katrina, eh?


103 posted on 09/08/2012 9:24:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Eye of Unk; familyop

Disarming 110 million people “one small group at a time” could take generations.


104 posted on 09/08/2012 9:25:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: fourth and three
I’m sorry, but once I reach the word “neo-con” in any article by anyone, I stop reading.

Yes, that struck me as odd. I mean there are some famous neo-cons out there: Bill Kristol, Max Boot, Condie Rice, Rumsfeld. Did the author talk with them about this? As for the rank and file of the Conservative movement not very many identify themselves as neo-cons. Strange choice of terminology.

105 posted on 09/08/2012 9:27:54 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Remember, November is Coming! Obozo Must Go! Then it is TIME to DownSize DC!”

LOL! When was the last time the District of Criminals was downsized?


106 posted on 09/08/2012 9:32:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Your policeman in the barber shop will be directly in conflict with the oath he gave to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

THAT is the line to be drawn.


107 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:03 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: TigersEye

Fear will be the key, either they blockade neighborhoods completely and using overwhelming force to go door to door before any organized resistance gets motivated or they just bombard every single minute of the day with every conceivable threat for gun hoarders and throw in a heft reward tip line as well dumped upon a demoralized weak economy millions will be be aggressively turning in their best friends and neighbors.

Best defense is a good offense, like communities mandating a required firearm in every home ahead of time.

let them keep on yammering away, we have seen Waco and we have a learning syntax upstairs. we can muster over a million people into Washington DC in just a couple of days, we can by sheer number succeed, America isn’t another Waco.

And then when and if they take our guns we will build lasers, sound cannons and who knows what else.


108 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:34 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thats a one off event. Even though pissed off when cops in New Orleans said they were taking the guns, the gun owners knew something.

They knew a hurricane had just blown through and that in the small area of the disaster, relief and rescue operations and restoring order was the order of the day. Nobody had the sincere belief that this was the beginning of a dictatorship to be resisted. So they turned em over.

This is a very different scenario from government moving to confiscate. It’s nuanced, and most people instictively know the difference.


109 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bopdowah

“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers” - Shakespeare


110 posted on 09/08/2012 9:35:20 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: marron
“That’s why you need a cheap one to give up and the good stuff stored in a secure location.”

My dad's cousin in Norway was a teenager in the resistance against the Nazi's. As an adult he was a successful business man and owned hunting property and a big outdoors-man. Officially he only owned one gun. A single-shot shotgun. Some lessons are learned the hard way.

111 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Eye of Unk
"It has already started with the latest mandate penned by who is an empty chair, that veterans will be “appraised” for mental health care, of which at the stroke of a pen in a check box require all guns to be immediately confiscated.

First the veterans, then the militia, then the gun clubs and shooting ranges.

They will do it quietly and under cover, even to the point of having armed Girl Scouts going door to door.
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Exactly. Well said. For example, I saw comments from quite a few people on this very discussion board in favor of outlawing possession of firearms by anyone who's ever seen a shrink (back after the Virginia Tech. murders). Anyone with a restraining order or misdemeanor domestic violence conviction against them can be put in federal prison for possessing firearms (VAWA, passed by both Democrats and Republicans).

We must pay attention to supporting and voting for conservative members of Congress (especially the House) while strengthening American knowledge and attitudes in favor of the Second Amendment (information, public affairs). As it is now, even many Democrats have legally purchased firearms and support the Second Amendment. We should do more to inform everyone.


112 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:41 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: DesertRhino

Also look at how many laws are on the books already that allow the criminal justice system to confiscate your firearms.


113 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Eye of Unk
Fear will be the key, either they blockade neighborhoods completely and using overwhelming force to go door to door...

They will have to do that to every neighborhood in American all at once.

...turning in their best friends and neighbors.

One out of three Americans owns a firearm more than that support the right to own firearms. Where will all these snitches come from again?

114 posted on 09/08/2012 9:39:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: jmacusa

Ask.com is a joke. Also, it depends on the def of “knocked out.” Here’s a link quoting the military: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-03-29-abrams-tank-a_x.htm


115 posted on 09/08/2012 9:40:45 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: jmacusa

Ask.com is a joke. Also, it depends on the def of “knocked out.” Here’s a link quoting the military: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-03-29-abrams-tank-a_x.htm


116 posted on 09/08/2012 9:40:58 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Remember, November is Coming! Obozo Must Go! Then it is TIME to DownSize DC!

My friend, and fellow Texan, even if Romney somehow wins in November, little, if anything will change.

Remember, it was RINOs like Romney in the White House and Congress who gave us things like the PATRIOT Act and the TSA. Romney can claim a change of heart, can trot Paul Ryan out on stage, but Romney is still the same person he has always been.

More importantly, Romney surrounds himself with RINOs.

It is very dangerous to think that things will change. A liberal with an (R) next to his name is still a liberal.
117 posted on 09/08/2012 9:42:30 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: yadent
LEO’s are not friends of Americans or their liberties! In Michigan, the SOP for State (storm) Troopers is to carry their civilian clothes in the trunk of their patrol vehicles so they can change in case of civil unrest.

LEO’s and their family of Unions have spent millions of dollars to get anti-gun legislation pushed through State legislatures and were the catalyst behind the “assault weapons Ban.”

The LEO’s are now pushing legislation to get the evil “AK-47” off the streets and out of the hands of American citizens.

No Sir, don't trust your local LEO’s!

118 posted on 09/08/2012 9:43:47 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (You defeat a larger and better equipped military with smaller killer teams and hit and run tactics!)
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To: GladesGuru

I’m more inclined to consider the following facts: morphine-fiend “Fatty” Goering was unsuccessful in knocking out the RAF in 1940—just as he failed to deliver later at Stalingrad—while Hitler was more interested in punitive bombing campaigns against urban areas, again, instead of knocking out radar installations.

In fact, his Luftwaffe general in charge of fighters (name escapes me) wanted the new jets for use as fighters, where they might have been, if not a war-winner, a means of dragging the war out another year or so. But Hitler wanted bombers and vengeance weapons to respond to allied bombing of German cities.

Losses of experienced pilots and planes over England, failure to gain control of the air and plain logistic inability to actually mount an invasion was the reason Fall `Sea Lion’ was never attempted—not any magnanimous attitude on the part of the little corporal, even if Germans could have then been considered Anglophiles.

Also, Hitler was eager to resolve some differences with his buddy to the east: Fall `Barbarrosa,’ and the air war with Britain was taking too long to suit him. If he had paid as much attention to his idol Frederick’s teachings, he would have considered that Russia, while easy to get into is almost impossible to get out of.

Something like Afghanistan: Barry’s war. We’ve seen two great powers in recent history leave Afghanistan licking their wounds but—like Vietnam and the French—we just had to try it on for size, with no exit strategy except (I suppose) to stay there indefinitely until even our Afghan `friends/allies’ started shooting us at close range.


119 posted on 09/08/2012 9:44:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: piytar
Well, when you detonate three 155mm shells under any armored vehicle, sh!t will happen. BTW Ask does cite Def.Dept stats.
120 posted on 09/08/2012 9:45:55 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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