Posted on 09/07/2012 1:01:37 PM PDT by NYer
The O’Reilly Factor began last night by broadcasting the convention speech of Caroline Kennedy, who came out and declared “As a Catholic woman,” she supports Obama because “Now isn’t the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president.” As if Roe vs. Wade was decided in 1963?
O’Reilly was blunt. “I have to tell you, I am stunned. I am stunned right now at what she just said as a Catholic woman and then she went on to object to 40 states implementing restrictions on abortion like a 24-hour waiting period.” O’Reilly said it “made my head snap back” when she proclaimed:
KENNEDY: His commitment to women is about even more than economic rights. It's about health care, reproductive rights and our ability to make our own decisions about ourselves, our families, and our future. When it comes to what's best for women, there is only one candidate in this race who is on our side, Barack Obama.
As a Catholic woman, I take reproductive health seriously. And today it is under attack. This year alone, more than a dozen states have passed more than 40 restrictions on women's access to reproductive health care. That's not the kind of future I want for my daughters or your daughters. Now isn't the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president. Now is the time to move this country forward.
O’Reilly and Karl Rove discussed the speech further, and Rove found it to be a direct attack on the Catholic church:
O’REILLY: She's evoking her Catholic faith, which clearly condemns abortion, and using that as some kind of spring board into criticizing the restrictions on abortion that many states have passed. And the restrictions aren't you can't have one. It's wait a couple of days and think it over.
So maybe I'm wrong on this, but that made my head snap back. And here to help us analyze Fox News analyst Karl Rove who joins us from Richmond, Virginia. Did you pick that up when she said that? I mean, I'm -- I'm still flabbergasted.
KARL ROVE: Yes. Well, I think it was a direct response -- I mean a direct attack on the church. I mean it's going out of her way to say I disagree with the values of my church.
And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion. What we're talking about is the administration's effort to expand the realm of choice by, for example, requiring churches to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees regardless of the fact that it violates the deeply most-held tenets of that faith.
We have an attack on religious liberty that's masquerading as an expansion of you know, of choice. And you know, Miss Kennedy tonight sort of threw herself on the side of those who -- who would advocate such an attack on religious liberty.
O'REILLY: But not only that, I mean she cited her Catholicism when she didn't have to. This is what -- I don't object to her opinion.
ROVE: Sure.
O'REILLY: She has her opinion and she wants unfettered abortion, that's her opinion. Supreme Court has ruled abortion is legal in the United States. Nobody is denying anybody's rights to anything. But she -- that's a gratuitous comment. She didn't have to inject that she's a Catholic woman and then go and say she wants no restrictions on abortion. She opposes that.
That's -- that's offensive, I believe and I'm -- I'm frankly shocked that -- that she would do that. I don't know whether she is -- wants to attack her own faith or not -- I'm not -- I'd like to ask her about it. But I'm just taken aback.
ROVE: Well, are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi does it routinely.
O'REILLY: Yes I am. I'm sure -- Karl -- Karl --
ROVE: Nancy Pelosi speaking as the Speaker of the House of Representatives --
O'REILLY: Wait, wait. Wait.
ROVE: And now the former speaker, assuming that she can step in and declare what the theology of the Catholic church is.
O'REILLY: Karl, let me be clear on this. Nancy Pelosi all right, is a political animal. All right? Whatever she says doesn't surprise me.
This woman comes out under the heading of the Kennedy name and the Kennedy legacy and directly besmirches her church. I mean that's stunning.
ROVE: Yes well look, she -- she may not be a politician -- she may not be a politician in the way that Nancy Pelosi is, but she comes from a very political family. Her presence there tonight was on behalf of that family. She's been a political figure. She was a key endorsement for Barack Obama in 2008....
It's gratuitous when people of any faith go out of their way to basically say I'm a -- I'm a -- I'm a Catholic and I'm telling you that I disagree deeply with the Catholic Church's opinions and I'm going to do so in a political sphere in order to make it easier for people who share my particular faith to you know disregard the teachings of our church.
This filthy scion of a besotted family helped bring the creature in the White House into his own in 2008. Now she has risen from the background to try again.
I hope she goes back to the “Kennedy Compound’, takes all her Kennedy Klan with her, and the entire festering sore of them drift out to sea and maybe wind up in Sweden or Greece, where they really belong.
John Kennedy may have been a Democrat with personal flaws, but he was a patriotic American, and a Catholic, and she should be thankful he and Jackie didn’t believe in abortions to eliminate “inconvenient” human lives.
She is insane. Leftists always use lies for their agenda
The Priest/Bishop/Cardinal in that order,
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YES ! And of Pelosi, and all the others.
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when DWS made a false claim, about the Israeli Ambassador,
he came out publicly, within 24 hours,
and basically called her a liar.
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recently, the Pope DID say, we need to speak the truth always. So why don’t the Bishops and Cardinals speak up,
at least on clear Catholic doctrine being misrepresented???
Pray for him ... no, seriously ... please, pray for him. He is a victim of the social teaching done by radical 'progressivist' nuns like,
Sister Simone Campbell
who was invited to speak at the DNC.
Well she is a Kennedy and that’s their cocktail of preference!
They guys only response was that Romney would cut medicare and that will lead to more abortions and his Catholic conscience would not let him vote for someone who would do that. And he repeated that response to every question. "
I think that was the same interview I saw -- it was Raymond Arroyo on EWTN interviewing a professor (I believe) with a name that looked something like "Professor Schmuck".
Arroyo shredded the guy pretty good I thought.
I was raised RC and left/lapsed when I figured out that the leadership does not believe in their own teachings. If they ever return to following their own faith, I’ll be back. Until then, God and I have a more ‘personal’ relationship.
A faith that does this crap is not worth following. And I know that sounds harsh, but I defy anyone to tell me why a parishoner should follow or listen to men who ignore their own ‘rules’.
Caroline is slightly nuts.
I can't answer that, but I can tell you this.
She's lived in New York City since the 70s. She didn't register to vote until she was 31 (in 1988). She only voted two or three times in the following 20 years.
If that's how she treated her actual religion - Democratic politics - I highly doubt she goes to Mass unless one of her relatives accidentally or deliberately kills himself or gets remarried.
That is the only rational argument I have heard so far for leaving the Church. I disagree with it, but it’s rational.
Picking and choosing who will live and who will die (infanticide) is morally reprehensible no matter what religion anyone calls themself. She has children who weren't aborted.
All I can say is this. If the leadership of any church chooses to willfully ignore their own teachings, then they themselves either do not believe them or are putting something else before God. There is no other way around that.
If a person sits in a pew being led by men who do not believe what they say or subordinate the word of God to political expedience, they are no closer to following the right path than if they wing it and go their own way.
I do not see how it can be any other way. Note that I Believe in the teachings of RC. I do NOT believe in the men teaching it and feel that they have no business trying to when they ignore it when convenient/profitable.
Best comment: “The Kennedy’s are a good Catholic family. You know, like the Borgia’s.”
I’m stunned why people even listen to O.R and Hannity.
Catholics need to tell the phony Catholics you can’t be a Dem and Catholic and tell them a lot
I told my MIL two eyars ago and she was a life long Dem voter but no more
As a catholic i say this is your last chance to choose faith or party. you absolutely can not support abortion or homosexuality and be a christian. Youu can call yourself whatever you want but you are NOT christian.
Yes that was it.
She took an aborted swing at politics recently but it quickly became apparent that she didn’t inherit the Kennedy politics gene so the democrats dumped her like a hot potato.
billy the o’bloviator may be dumber than obama and biden combined.
LLS
This has to be done. This “Everyone gets a participation trophy” mentality has to be smacked down. Words mean things. Christians do not support OR EMPOWER things contrary to the Bible.
Everyone wants their cake and to eat it to. Well their cake is left out in the rain on this one. No splitting the baby. One follows the faith or one does not. And those that CHOOSE not to can deal with it.
The Kennedys have known for more than eighty years that they could get away with flipping the bird to the Church anytime they wanted, so long as they kept up with the big contributions.
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