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To: bert

Reality does not backup your hypothesis. My son just got out of the Army, which is a lot more demanding that “flipping burger”, and he applied for several jobs which did NOT require a degree. He was turned down because his “competitors” had degrees (not necessarily in the field) even though he had 4 years of real experience. College is being used to identify conformists. Those that conform are easy to manage, those that chose alternate paths to life are too difficult to manage. The current corporate environment does not maintain qualified managers, just accountants posing as managers. This is why the large companies continue to lobby for more H1B Visas for foreign workers, easy to manage.


9 posted on 09/06/2012 5:18:26 AM PDT by vet7279
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Reality does not backup your hypothesis. My son just got out of the Army, which is a lot more demanding that “flipping burger”, and he applied for several jobs which did NOT require a degree. He was turned down because his “competitors” had degrees (not necessarily in the field) even though he had 4 years of real experience. College is being used to identify conformists. Those that conform are easy to manage, those that chose alternate paths to life are too difficult to manage. The current corporate environment does not maintain qualified managers, just accountants posing as managers. This is why the large companies continue to lobby for more H1B Visas for foreign workers, easy to manage.

vet7279:
Amen! You are describing the reality of today, not the reality of our fathers or grand fathers.

Our economy and jobs situation did not get in such dire straits in only 4 years. Obama is just continuing the policies of the three prior administrations. Since at least the 1990's our economy has been trading middle class jobs for Mc Jobs. Our 'Free Trade' chickens are finally coming home to roost.

For those who blame regulations, large companies have not problems with regulations, they are a great way to suppress competition from small business and start ups.

For those who blame our dumbed-down education system, there are lots of unemployed, and under employed with proven good records of work experience but their job opportunities have been out sourced, and guest-workered into non existence. Nothing like a work force of desperate third worlders!

And now we have hit the point that we don't even create enough jobs for the college screened conformists.

'Globalism' and 'Free Trade' are the ultimate success of Cultural Marxism. In order to speed up the onset of global communism, Marx promoted 'Free Trade', i.e. the free movement of capital and labor over national borders without any consideration of ethics or patriotism. He knew that the dark side of human nature, rapacious greed, would lead companies to chase the cheapest labor and worst work environments over the global until the populace would gladly sign on to anyone promising hope and change.
13 posted on 09/06/2012 6:00:07 AM PDT by khelus
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To: vet7279
The current corporate environment does not maintain qualified managers, just accountants posing as managers.

Agreed. My former company is an example. Middle and upper management have mostly been made into accountants, no matter what their backgrounds are.

My former job is an example of bad accounting. I had 24 years experience, knew the job as well as or better than my manager (which made him mad, so he jumped on my occaisonal mistake).

He and his manager decided that I cost too much, so they laid me off. They then hired two young women at low salaries, although they were given pay grades that were 2 or 3 levels above mine.

Well, one of the women didn't like the job and quit after 3 weeks, and the other reportedly had an aversion to hard work. After I laughed in my former managers face, I lost interest and don't know what happened.

I have been unable to find a job in my field, so I have retired and will be fleeing Maryland to my sisters place in rural Oregon, where I can buy some guns and be a prepper, just like most of the people in that area.

16 posted on 09/06/2012 6:02:38 AM PDT by jimtorr
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Actually it can reflect reality if one knows where they are looking. Every recession returns to America an advance in lifestyle be it the car or the computer...neither came from the college.

Borrowing from an old concept, what will America's “New Economy,” be this time?

0bama’s dictated alternative energy economy?

Romney's unleashing of the entrepreneur?

Or neither, but continued languishing because our leaders don't know how to let the recovery happen?

30 posted on 09/06/2012 6:42:02 AM PDT by EBH (Courage, Trust, Sacred Honor, Truth, Freedom)
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To: vet7279

WOW...you hit the nail on the head.


49 posted on 09/06/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: vet7279
Those that conform are easy to manage, those that chose alternate paths to life are too difficult to manage.

We have a winner!

84 posted on 09/07/2012 11:05:06 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: vet7279
College is being used to identify conformists. Those that conform are easy to manage...

For manage one needs to read control. The sheepskin is a good indicator that one is a sheep, a good little bot who researches what he's told to research.

FWIW Bill Gates, back when Microsoft was an up-and-comer, hired people who argued with him. That was seen as a positive. They did not want (Warcraft voice): "Yes boss... All right... right-o." They wanted thinkers... Innovators... And those do not always come from institutions.

93 posted on 09/07/2012 10:41:45 PM PDT by Lexinom
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