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To: Eagle Forgotten; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Perdogg; ...

The sound you hear is Obama, Biden and Axelrod popping champagne corks at the White House.

Conservatives and Republicans in VA will have to work doubly hard to keep Obama from carrying VA and thus win reelection, since Obama now will need 48% instead of 50% to win VA’s 13 electoral votes.

What irks me the most is that, for some strange reason, the guys who almost always end up running as spoiler candidates are not the conservative superstars who can make a principled stand, but some third-stringer who possesses no qualifications for the office he or she purportedly is seeking.

Take Virgil Goode as an example. He was a lifelong Democrat who was perfectly content casting the deciding vote in the VA Senate for whatever the Democrats wanted that day, and stayed a Democrat as conservatives in his party increasingly switched to the GOP. He was elected to Congress as a Democrat and was happy to vote for Dick Gephardt for Speaker. Only when it became clear that the GOP would control redistricting in VA after the 2000 Census did he decide to become a Republican (funny, he was untroubled by the Democrats nominating Mondale and Dukakis for president, but when he thought Republicans might stick him in the same district as a Republican incumbent he switched without skipping a beat). Goode continued serving in the House as a backbencher, sticking his foot in his mouth from time to time but not doing anything particularly noteworthy, and somehow managed to run behind McCain in his district and lose to a Democrat in the 2008 election. Virgil Goode would be no one’s ideal of a potential presidential candidate, but there he is, getting on the ballot in VA (with the help of the local Green Party) and trying to take enough votes away from the GOP to get Obama elected and “prove his point” (which I guess is “Obamacare should never be repealed”—at least that would be the likely effect of Goode getting 5%+ in VA).

I opposed Romney’s presidential candidacy in 2008, and fought tooth and nail against Romney winning the nomination in 2012, even running as a delegate for Rick Santorum. Unfortunately, Romney won. The time to “send a message” to establishment Republicans is over and done with: one of two men will be elected president—Barack Obama and Mitt Romney—and all of the “Nobama” voters need to vote for the same “Nobama” candidate to stop Obama’s reelection. We need Obama to be swept out of office, and Romney is the only person with a working broom. A vote for Goode makes it easier for Obama to win reelection.


53 posted on 09/04/2012 3:09:32 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I’ll be voting for Goode so its a waste of your time to ping me to your tantrum.

I really couldn’t care less.


54 posted on 09/04/2012 3:12:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I just moved to VA - 3 days ago! The scuttlebutt I’m hearing on the local news down here is that Paul Ryan pretty much neutralized Goode. Hope so.


63 posted on 09/04/2012 3:28:23 PM PDT by randita
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thank you for the Virgil Goode history, it shows how ridiculous the stance is with voting for him based on “principle”.


66 posted on 09/04/2012 3:37:21 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

In 2004 and ‘08, I voted for the Constitution Party presidential candidates. I thought that Bush and McCain were too liberal, and I knew that Kerry and Obama would easily win my state, Illinois.

I think that, this year, IL will be a swing state, along with KY, MO, WV, NC, ME, and MT. I hope that all anti-Obama voters, who live in those states, will cooperate and vote for Romney.


77 posted on 09/04/2012 4:04:37 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: AuH2ORepublican; EternalVigilance; Dr. Sivana; Captain Beyond; SatinDoll; Windflier; GailA; ...
AuH2O Republican:

I often agree with you on issues but I will NEVER agree with you by voting for Myth. Nonetheless, God bless you and yours.

Gee, how fascinating! Does this mean that Myth, for the very first time in his execrable career will have to etch sketches to campaign for actual Republican votes? Conservatives' votes? Gun owners' votes? Pro-lifer votes? Votes of folks fed up to the eye teeth with the all "gay" all the time crapola that has been a hallmark of Myth's career? Votes of folks that marriage is always and ever an institution limited to one man and one woman per marriage? Votes of folks who value their souls more than their investment portfolios? Votes of folks who despise the religious persecution of pro-life churches characterizing his track record and Obozo's? [Readers fill in your favorite issue other than care and feeding of Muffy's trust fund and ask similar questions.]

What can a GOP Elitist windtunnel like Myth do? If he has to behave like a conservative, what was the point of running??? They will make him the butt (he should pardon the expression) of the jokes at the polo club and he will never again be welcomed by the Junior Leaguers or Planned Barrenhood.

How tragic for poor Myth!!! Every carefully cultivated and enthusiastically embraced heresy of his lifetime will have to be discarded for the mere electoral votes of Virginia! Bobby Lee and Stonewall ain't finished yet! And when Myth is forced (what a refreshing situation!) to abandon what pass for HIS principles because actual conservatives WON'T abandon theirs, we shall see what the putz is made of.

Myth already suffered the humiliation of being for each of his supporters here: no better than their 47 gazillionth favorite candidate in the primaries (so they all seem to say as they eagerly pick up those pom poms). NOW he has to publicly Kowtow to the "extremist" majority in the GOP. Is the presidency sooooo attractive to him that he will do such utterly humiliating things??? In a word, yes! Then, if he is elected, watch out! He will teach us a lesson for interfering with his brainless and unprincipled Wierd Cardboard Preppie Zillionaire on the Rampage image and dreams.

Personally, I will vote for FR's own Tom Hoefling of America's Party (I prefer him and his foreign policy over Goode and his) if he is on the ballot. If not, I feel reasonably sure that Goode will be. Either is infinitely superior to the GOP-E and Myth.

If Obozo is defeated by Myth, I will celebrate Obozo's destruction but NOT Myth's victory over America. If Myth is defeated by Obozo, I will celebrate Myth's destruction but NOT Obozo's victory over America. Then, that very night, I will seek the brotherhood of those determined to destroy the "winner." The loser won't be seen again.

For frosting on the cake, let's elect Senate candidates Todd Akin of MO, Deb Fischer of NE, Ted Cruz of TX, Josh Mandel of Ohio, Richard Mourdock of IN, Jeff Flake of AZ, Connie Mack IV of FL, and even Linda McMahon of WWE and CT and Tommy Thompson (ONLY to prevent an openly lesbian US Senator) and any committed anti-GOP-E conservative candidate I may be omitting. Thompson is a well-known but occasionally conservative political whore, McMahon may be a bit questionable (but far preferable to Chris Murphy) and Connie Mack IV is now married to the lovely but controversial pro-abort Mary Bono Mack (but he IS running against incumbent disgrace William Nelson). Those three Senate races have used up my entire supply of "reasonable" compromise this year. Myth and the GOP-E can go straight to hell!

Conservatives lost this POTUS "election" once and for all months ago when Myth's advertising carpet-bombing campaign of lies, slanders, libels, and calumnies against every worthwhile candidate, financed by his corrupt Wall Street buddies at Lord knows what cost to taxpayers as they intend to slop at the gummint trough, simply bought the nomination. Then he and his buddies and Boehner change the party rules to prevent any future insurgencies not merely by Ron Paul's devotees but also by pro-lifers, and each and every other grass roots activist movement within conservatism.

While I have no use for Ron Paul and his specific qualities and foreign policy nuttiness, maybe it is time for the Right (including the Paulistas) to band together, get rid of Romney and take back the GOP. After we band together against the GOP-E, we can argue about Fed audits and gold standards and non-interventionism and pro-life and pro-marriage and what not but we will NOT BE STIFLED by a bunch of Wall Street give-a-shits obsessed with seizing governmental power and fostering Muffy's trust fund.

And NO, I don't care that the other GOP POTUS candidates and the nearly divine Miss Sarah say I should vote for. That is a ritual of everyone playing at their level as a condition of further prominence at that level and ought not be taken seriously. The sound you hear is the rising of a national version of the Army of Northern Virginia! If we go down, we shall go down with honor intact and refusing to cower before our enemies in BOTH parties.

Congratulations to the Honorable Virgil Goode from a supporter of Tom Hoefling! A job well done, sir! Make the ballot in Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin and Myth will be forced to be an entirely new man.

Tom Hoefling:

May God grant that you make it onto the ballot wherever you can and particularly in your state and mine. Make Myth bleed, Tom! Show America its history, its heritage and its future. If you feel moved to "debate" Myth, a life sized cardboard cutout mounted on plywood would do even better than Eastwood's empty chair for Obozo. Sounds like a good video for YouTube! In about eight weeks the Myth pm pom girls pep rally will end and we can get back to conservatism.

God bless you and yours!

96 posted on 09/04/2012 7:52:01 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

What you are saying is this:

Virgil Goode is as much a political tramp as Charlie Crist, the flipfloppy go-both-ways shape-shifter political whore.

“the guys who almost always end up running as spoiler candidates are not the conservative superstars who can make a principled stand, but some third-stringer who possesses no qualifications for the office he or she purportedly is seeking.”

Easy: This is nothing more than a publicity stunt, zero chance of getting any real headway, especially if the media ignore, and zero chance for getting elected.

So the ABR folks are voting for an ex-Democrat who supported Gephardt once because they don’t like the Republican nominee for flipflopping on social issues ... huh. fancy that.

Making a ‘principled’ vote for such a political cross-dresser is a contradiction in terms. The only ‘principle’ served is - ‘lets make it easier for Obama to win’.

“We need Obama to be swept out of office, and Romney is the only person with a working broom. A vote for Goode makes it easier for Obama to win reelection.”

Agree.


102 posted on 09/04/2012 9:13:18 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; randita; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; MitchellC; WOSG; DarthVader; Perdogg; LS; ...

If I was gonna “vote my conscience” for a minor candidate it certainly would not be Goode. I wouldn’t even want him for the Republican nominee even over Glove since Obama would crush him.

Johnson is no good either. He may be well qualified, unlike Virg, but has many unfortunate positions.

If there was actually a somewhat qualified, clean conservative on any minor party line maybe I’d be tempted.

Most FR Goode backers I know of are people who wouldn’t vote Romney even if he and Obama were the only names on the ballot. I hope that goes for Goode voters in general, it would make no difference if they vote Goode in lieu of not voting at all. I suspect there might be some fans in his old congressional district though who would vote Romney without him on the ballot.


147 posted on 09/06/2012 2:25:46 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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