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To: butterdezillion

He verified that they have a (legally non-valid) birth record that CLAIMS (indicates) that Obama was born in Hawaii, but that’s a totally different thing.


I doubt at this point that Obama was even born a citizen. Too much smoke.

But could you explain in an easy way how a birth record in HI that claims he was born there is not valid, because on its face, what else do we have? I have a birth record in the county of Los Angeles that claims I was born there.

I read klayman’s letter and understand it. I just am not clear on the wording of how matching the document on file is not the same as verifying. I’m sure it isn’t but what should Onaka have said?


362 posted on 09/08/2012 4:31:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

If there was a legally valid document he should have said

#1 that he verified that Barack Hussein Obama II, male, WAS born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.

#2 For the additional request about the items on the birth certificate he should have said, “In addition I verify that the following facts from the birth certificate are legally true:....”

#3 For the additional request about the WH BC, if it was a legally valid record he would have been able to say, “I additionally verify that the birth certificate copy which you submitted is a true and accurate representation of the original record on file.”

He couldn’t do any of that though, because for #1 he can’t certify that anything really did happen the way the BC claims - because a non-valid (late and/or altered) BC has no probative value. For #2 he couldn’t verify any of those facts either; the only way he could answer that request at all was by interpreting the request to be a verification of what was on the BC. And for #3 he couldn’t verify that because the real record has notations of late registration and/or alterations which weren’t included on the WH BC.

The WH BC and the real one do not match because the real one has additional markings. Everything that’s actually ON the fake BC is on the real one, and that’s what he verified. But everything that is on the real one is NOT on the fake one.

And the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee understood clearly what Onaka’s verification to Bennett meant, because when they asked for a verification all they asked for was verification of the existence of a record and verification that everything on the fake BC is also on the real one. Those are the only things Onaka really COULD verify if the record is non-valid - AND the only things Onaka did verify - which is precisely why MDEC only asked for those things.

Their request actually confirmed for me that what I understood would also be widely acknowledged by lawyers. Even the pro-Obama MDEC lawyers knew better than to ask Onaka to verify any actual birth fact, or to verify that the WH BC is accurate. They understood clearly (and showed by their request) that Onaka had refused to verify any of those things because he COULD NOT. They carefully avoided asking for any verification that would actually only apply to a legally valid record.


368 posted on 09/08/2012 5:00:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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