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Romney's "RNC Power Grab": What Really Happened
FreedomWorks ^ | August 29, 2012 | Dean Clancy

Posted on 08/31/2012 9:46:46 AM PDT by Mozilla

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1 posted on 08/31/2012 9:46:50 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Still here propagandizing for the Democrats huh bot boy?


2 posted on 08/31/2012 9:48:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Mozilla
Definitely not good.

A little historical perspective, though: every time a party attempts to put in rules that will achieve purpose x, they usually have the exact opposite unintended effect. Recall the post-McGovern frenzy by the Dems to require certain % of women, minorities, etc in every delegation. All that did was make them unelectable (Mondale). It took Clinton to do an end run around the whole process through the DLC and his alliances with governors to overcome the new rules. But he did.

3 posted on 08/31/2012 9:51:18 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Self-ping


4 posted on 08/31/2012 9:53:21 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: MNJohnnie
Still here propagandizing for the Democrats huh bot boy?

If it's "propaganda" I'd really like to know why? Can you point it out?

5 posted on 08/31/2012 9:53:37 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: Mozilla

Thanks for the concise update.


6 posted on 08/31/2012 9:54:29 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Mozilla

It’s incredible that Obama is our President and only such a distasteful incumbent could force us to accept one such as Romney. But he was picked early on just like W was. The RNC gave him the big bucks and the rest is history. Hopefully things will get better without a Leninist in the White House, but not much in my estimation.


7 posted on 08/31/2012 9:54:46 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Mozilla
If this is the case then the Republican Party has become as Fascist as the Democrats. The Democrats forever changed the course of their party in 1972 by adopting rules changes that put the party squarely to the extreme left and cut out most centrists and conservatives. You see the end result.
The Republicans have decided,in a way, to do the same thing and cut out all grass roots and conservatives also.
The party now will be controlled centrally from D.C. and RNC headquarters.
These rule changes should give pause to all Conservatives on continuing to support this party.
Let me Phrase It Thus: CONSERVATIVES NOT WANTED!!!!!!!!!
8 posted on 08/31/2012 9:56:42 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: MNJohnnie

You need to put down the Kool Aid.


9 posted on 08/31/2012 9:57:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Mozilla

The rule change had nothing to do with Ron Paul.
His convention trolls and odious activities at the primaries merely gave them an excuse to pull this stunt.
This was aimed at the Tea Party grassroots and Conservatives.
The nominee was already chosen for us long before any primaries were held.
Look at how Florida was sddenly ‘all awarded to Romney’ despite the RNC rules sayng that it wasn’t to be so before ‘a certain date’.


10 posted on 08/31/2012 9:59:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: MNJohnnie; tsowellfan

Even IF is was for a good intention, it will lead to MORE control taken away from the people... how often has a rule/regulation/law been made for a good intention that ended up making things worse... yet it was never recalled or amended?

How many of those HAVE been fixed (as far as I know.. none).

There are many saying this was to prevent Paultards from screwing things up... it may be so, but they were also pushing Conservatives out to the curb... (I DO know that the Paultards had to go.. he is NOT a Conservative, no matter what they say)... but I am sure there were other ways of getting the Libertarians out without alienating the Conservatives..


11 posted on 08/31/2012 10:00:15 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Mozilla
But the Romney camp and RNC insiders won the day, successfully imposing their will with the help of their control of the gavels, superior knowledge of the process, and perhaps some dirty tricks.

This is why I always tell these people who think that "all we need to do is take the GOP over at the county level and work our way up" that they are delusional.

When the GOP-E controls the gavel, chooses who gets called on, decides what proposals get considered and which do not, decides what rules get made, etc., then it doesn't matter how many average Joes you turn out to the conventions - the GOP-E will still win at the end of the day. It's like playing a baseball game where the home team gets to move the home run wall closer or farther away from home plate, depending on who's up to bat.

12 posted on 08/31/2012 10:01:10 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: MNJohnnie; tsowellfan

Oops.. meant the people as the STATES...


13 posted on 08/31/2012 10:01:18 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Mozilla

When conservatives are a majority of the Republican party they can change the rules to suit themselves.

When conservatives are a majority (or even close) of the party, I’ll rejoin it.


14 posted on 08/31/2012 10:01:48 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
If this is the case then the Republican Party has become as Fascist as the Democrats.


Not quite.. but getting there quickly :(

This is the most OBVIOUS it's been yet.. and WE must let them know that WE won't allow it...
15 posted on 08/31/2012 10:04:26 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Mozilla

“Grassroots” , aka, - Paulers.

This is getting tiresome.


16 posted on 08/31/2012 10:05:30 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Darksheare

I agree mostly with what you said... Paul gave them a reason to pull this off, and the timing was perfect.... BUT, not all of us are that stupid or blind.

I just pray that we can fix this really soon before there really IS a CWII.


17 posted on 08/31/2012 10:06:08 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Mozilla

Why was this move made? Probably because of the Paulistinians who, even though Paul did not win a single contest, still were able to maneuver to get the delegate slots. The Paul supporters were moving to nominate Paul, despite the fact that everyone’s favorite crazy uncle did not win, or even come close. They adopted the rules to avoid the embarrasment that the media would heap upon them for the Pual delegate actions.

Code Pink was able to infiltrate and disrupt Ryan’s speech and Romney’s speech. How and why? Paul supporters, of course; they gave them their credentials. What if they had given the credentials not to a whacked out chick screaming about her “lady parts” but rather to some whacked out, violent terrorist who would kill delegates, or the candidates? The Paulistinians showed their true colors this week. They were not above sabatoging the convention and the candidates in their little immature hissy fit.


18 posted on 08/31/2012 10:06:37 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: Mozilla

Why was this move made? Probably because of the Paulistinians who, even though Paul did not win a single contest, still were able to maneuver to get the delegate slots. The Paul supporters were moving to nominate Paul, despite the fact that everyone’s favorite crazy uncle did not win, or even come close. They adopted the rules to avoid the embarrasment that the media would heap upon them for the Pual delegate actions.

Code Pink was able to infiltrate and disrupt Ryan’s speech and Romney’s speech. How and why? Paul supporters, of course; they gave them their credentials. What if they had given the credentials not to a whacked out chick screaming about her “lady parts” but rather to some whacked out, violent terrorist who would kill delegates, or the candidates? The Paulistinians showed their true colors this week. They were not above sabatoging the convention and the candidates in their little immature hissy fit.


19 posted on 08/31/2012 10:06:51 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: JohnG45

“Thanks for the concise update.”

Sure. No problem. I am glad I found a well written article that summarizes what went down. Terrible situation is Romney wins and gets a challenger in 2016.


20 posted on 08/31/2012 10:06:51 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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