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To: Forgotten Amendments

You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.


24 posted on 08/31/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.

And how does that make us "full of it"? The abortion in this case would have been for the life of the mother. Pretty much every reputable pro-life group would not have been against terminating that pregnancy. Sorry, try again.

27 posted on 08/31/2012 10:14:23 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Melas
You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.

Maybe the patient couldn't stand the idea of abortion, thinking it to be murder. If that is the case then I cannot fault the decision to "ignore the advice" of the doctor.

29 posted on 08/31/2012 10:25:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Melas

If the woman was aware of her serious health problems, she had the opportunity to PREVENT pregnancy. A child conceived by rape or incest is a victim also. Why is it OK to kill the victim but not have the death penalty for the perpetrator?


36 posted on 08/31/2012 10:52:03 AM PDT by brightright
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To: Melas
You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.

Just curious...How many times have patients' of your wife been advised not to continue pregnancies due to health issues, and how many times when they ignored their advice did they die? I'd like to get an idea of the statistics of this scenario. How long has your wife been practicing? Do you have examples other than this one that really seems to stick out in your mind?

Is it possible that this woman's heart condition was so severe that whether or not she continued her pregnancy at some point her heart would have failed? Can it be said without a shred of doubt that the advancing pregnancy and only that was the cause of her death?

94 posted on 08/31/2012 6:18:11 PM PDT by Shethink13
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