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50,000 people have 90 mins evacuate, dam about to break near Percy Quinn State Park
http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/isaac ^ | 8/30/2012 | Breaking News

Posted on 08/30/2012 8:58:15 AM PDT by TSgt

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To: ottbmare
Always ask: could you evacuate in 90 minutes or less?

BTDT. A few years ago, we had a 23 foot flood and was never told to evacuate by the idiot officials who were all, "what, there's a flood coming?" when WE called THEM several times to warn people. I had a eye out for a spot on one of our trees to when I thought was the get the heck outta dodge time. I was also in the middle of canning pickles and wasn't about to leave before those were done. Between the canning batches, I called the neighbors, threw the keepsakes, clothes and food in the vehicles along with the pets and kids. There was no question we were leaving because we had one very sick kid and the only way out is across a low water crossing. As I was calmly putting the last of the jars onto the cooling rack, the water hit the spot on the tree and we were out the door to spend the night up in the hills. The next morning we came back home to find someone's kitchen cabinets on our deck but everything else was ok including the pickles. That wasn't the first flood and won't be the last here so we're always aware of the weather. The thing we weren't prepared for was how moronic officals from several departments proved to be.

61 posted on 08/30/2012 10:00:57 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I was just looking at a map. The Tangipahoa River goes under I-55 about five miles down from this dam.

Does anyone know how high the interstate bridge is over the river?

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It is low. You don’t get into high, solid bridges until you get into the swampland south of Hammond


62 posted on 08/30/2012 10:13:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: al_c

Me neither. It just looks like a big pond at 700 acres.


63 posted on 08/30/2012 10:13:20 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: tcrlaf
“The Department of Environmental Quality and the Corps of Engineers are sandbagging around that area.”

We don't need the Corpse of Engineers to sandbag squat. The old Corp of Engineers' job was to prevent the need for citizens to sandbag anything in the middle of the night!

The new, "better" Corps, these days, is busy declaring "wetands" out of thin air and denying people the use of their property.

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

64 posted on 08/30/2012 10:14:39 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Strategerist
Most of the population is 40-50 miles downriver in Louisiana near Lake Ponchartrain.

That's a long way for the water to flow and should distribute itself quite a lot before reaching the more populated areas.

65 posted on 08/30/2012 10:21:46 AM PDT by bgill
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To: tapatio
Bear with us as we work out the discrepancy in the reports and work to determine whether the dam has failed or is expected to fail.

Well, he's advising people to get out but he's still slip sliding on the stupid comment hill. If you leave the fate of your family to a coin toss you deserve what you get.

66 posted on 08/30/2012 10:27:12 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Speaking of stupid officials: a friend in Louisiana tells me that when she called to ask for evacuation status and directions, she was told, “Download our app.” She was outraged. She has a smart phone, but she told the official in brisk language that many poor elderly people, or just plain elderly people, do NOT, and they had better develop some more traditional ways of telling the non-technologically oriented and those people who can’t afford a data plan. Also, cell towers may well be out of operation during a major emergency, so where are all your fine apps then, Mr Emergency Official? God help us.


67 posted on 08/30/2012 10:27:27 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: bgill

I’m glad your pickles survived :)

A year ago Irene passed through our town. It was every man for himself. The town was so unprepared for the locals. They had no plan or reserves. Yet, FEMA thought that NYC was going to be hit and figured the folks would be heading upstate when they were told to evacuate. FEMA sent food upstate for those NYC peeps. Turns out, us locals used the food.


68 posted on 08/30/2012 10:28:47 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: TSgt

but isn’t that just mostly white people in that area?


69 posted on 08/30/2012 10:28:47 AM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: TSgt

are there roads in the area that will allow that kind of evacuation?


70 posted on 08/30/2012 10:31:51 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ottbmare
Around here, when the landlines go out (a regular occurrence) they have the nerve to tell customers they can't get out for a week to 10 days. Excuse me, but this is a retirement area where many of the old folk don't have cell phones. Not to mention cell phone service is spotty to begin with. A few complaints to the utility commission lights fires under them, snicker.
71 posted on 08/30/2012 10:36:57 AM PDT by bgill
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To: TSgt

That dam/lake was classified by the Corps of Engineers as having insufficient capability to discharge water w/o overflowing of the earthen dam in the event of a heavy rains according to this article in 1978:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1842&dat=19781207&id=bSMsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GskEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1489,3368160


72 posted on 08/30/2012 10:39:32 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: al_c

3/4ths of them are probably journalists.


73 posted on 08/30/2012 10:41:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TSgt

Bush’s fault.


74 posted on 08/30/2012 10:42:32 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: _Jim
according to this article in 1978

In other words, typical government efficiency.
75 posted on 08/30/2012 10:44:36 AM PDT by DaveInDallas
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To: Psalm 144

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/miss_officials_to_breach_isaac.html

Miss. officials to breach Isaac-damaged dam on Tangipahoa River
Thursday, August 30, 2012, 12:36 PM
By Jeff Adelson, The Times-Picayune

BATON ROUGE — Mississippi officials are planning a controlled breach of a dam on the Tangipahoa River in Pike County inundated by Isaac to prevent massive flooding from Kentwood to Robert, Gov. Bobby Jindal said Thursday. The dam is in imminent danger of failing, which could send 17 feet of water to Kentwood within 90 minutes, Jindal said.


76 posted on 08/30/2012 10:47:37 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: _Jim

So, they knew it would fail 34 years ago.


77 posted on 08/30/2012 10:47:46 AM PDT by bgill
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To: abb

What could possibly go wrong?


78 posted on 08/30/2012 10:48:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Yeah; the ‘repairs’ they hoped to effect this fall and winter are probably recommendations from the 1978 report ... I would not be surprised if that was the case ..


79 posted on 08/30/2012 10:55:42 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: gramho12

I’m surprised NBC acknowledged this - it’s not New Orleans....


Bush (or the Romney Republicans) didn’t suffiently fund New Orleans wall whiched consequently cause N.O. to flood.
Likewise, Bush (or the Romney Republicans) didn’t sufficiently fund this dam.
Doesn’t matter if its true. Thats the benefit of being a lying propagandist leftist media hack.
Just make @#$% up to fit your twisted agenda.


80 posted on 08/30/2012 10:55:54 AM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil--A-merican)
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